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Topic: NY Giants' Plaxico Burress is an Idiot
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Chad Souder
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From: Waterloo, IA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 12-19-2008 10:08 AM
Chris and One-Shot Bobby - If the problem is the wording, please read page 51 again. Nowhere does it say close range shots by a 7.62 are comfortable. There are two separate statements. It says in most cases bullets can be handled comfortably and then it says in Dr. Fackler's study his assistant was never in danger of being knocked over. It doesn't say what type of vest the guy was wearing, it was only making the point that the energy wasn't enough to move you. I agree that using a term like "most cases" is poor, as it is a vague, comparative statement. Here is another decent read that also covers energy transfer.
I also would like to state openly that I am a far cry from an expert. I do have a background in criminology and police science and this stuff was all covered in classes I took, but that was just these basics.
Monte - Yeah, I too thought it was common sense not to square up directly with something that can "return serve" so to speak. It's hard to say whether or not the bullet would have enough left on it to do any real damage, but I wouldn't want to take that chance.
I'll happily return to Plaxico now. He is a tard that stands to lose out on approximately $6 mil and that's not including future earning potential. The Giants haven't won since he left, probably because there is one fewer studs to bail out Eli now. Guys like me that never had that kind of ability will never understand guys like him that waste it.
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Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
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From: Canton, MI, USA
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 12-19-2008 01:24 PM
I am no gun expert, I have never owned one and never fired a handgun. I think that I would like to at some point, but in Michigan you have to be 21 to purchase a handgun, and I am not.
That being said, in high school I dated a girl whose father was a police detective in the city of Wayne. They had moved out of Wayne to Plymouth, about 8 miles away, in the mid-'90s due to the large volume of death threats he received from the violent felons he put away. He was, and I believe still is, the only full detective in Wayne, and he investigates most felonies and all violent ones, so he had quite a few death threats, from people more violent and depraved than anyone you and I deal with. He kept one single handgun in the house, without a clip in it, for home protection. Considering that no violent felons actively want me, or most of you, dead, I feel as though a handgun should be adequate for the purposes of protecting my home, at least where I live. Actually, where I live, a cell phone is adequate for home protection, since there is no real crime and there are about tons of police.
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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted 12-19-2008 10:11 PM
quote: Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
I have never owned one and never fired a handgun. I think that I would like to at some point, but in Michigan you have to be 21 to purchase a handgun, and I am not.
They're fun to shoot - I was 12 when my uncle taught me how to shoot with a .22 rifle on target practice ranges with anything and everything that can be found to shoot at.
It didn't take me long to handle such a weapon to where I could hit anything that I point the barrel of the weapon at - from tin cans to jackrabbits and noisy magpies.
Now, pistols is another animal all together: I learned quickly that you don't aim to hit something as with a rifle, but just point to hit something.
But, you'd better be fully mature to own one, for knowing that you got something that has power and you can show power with..and if you one inch from maturity, that power will want to eventually take you over.
Fun watching these fellas on YouTube with all the weaponry that they have and sometimes you can tell that they do this sport mainly to get their aggression out on something.
Biggest weapon that I ever shot was a .58 cal Springfield percussion cap muzzle loader shooting a 750gr ball with triple load powder and the ball fully wadded down. You've seen these folks shooting that .50cal Desert Eagle pistoll and the recoil those pistols have, this rifle kicked harder being the ball was wadded down and rammed in super tight.
..but I managed to hit my target 50yds away - paper plate hanging on the tree. Sent the ball through the plate and through the tree...blowing out 6 inches of back end of the tree.
But, "dang, that was FUN."
-Monte
[ 12-20-2008, 01:13 AM: Message edited by: Monte L Fullmer ]
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