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Author Topic: 16mm enthusiasts here? Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 07-19-2009 04:00 PM                        That photo sure brings back some memories! Used to do the same thing in the '70's (in the back yard like in your photo during the nice times of the year; in the living room otherwise). The machines I had access to back then were either B&H 567s or JANs. Also occasionally used my school's Kalart Victor 15-70s. All those machines were set up to run 'scope, 1.37, or 1.85. Fun times!  |  IP: Logged Jarret Chessell Master Film Handler Posts: 288 From: London, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jan 2009 posted 07-20-2009 12:35 AM                     We needed a campfire for sure that night (I think we were still putting wood on and having beers until 2:30am). It was pretty cool too for July, dipped down to 12 degrees C, or about 54 F for you southern folks. I do hope it makes some memories for the people who came. I think changeovers and film make for a real genuine film experience. The trouble is finding mainstreamish 16mm films to get people to come out.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 08-03-2009 04:40 PM                   |  IP: Logged Ben Wales Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 602 From: Southampton. England Registered: Jul 99 posted 08-03-2009 04:58 PM                     I still use my trusty Bell & Howell TQ1, in fact I have a pair and both had new Worm Gears and changed to a QI 250w Lamp. I still use one for Race Nights where I screen a 4min short film that is selected and people place bets on 8 Horses/Dogs before it is screened. Several years ago, I had seen some new Worm Gears for Sale at the BFCC (Film Fair) in Ealing London  |  IP: Logged Jarret Chessell Master Film Handler Posts: 288 From: London, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jan 2009 posted 08-03-2009 09:17 PM                     Phil, I really like that picture, thanks for putting that up. It seems like goofy might be a bad choice as a film handler... they should re-introduce similar cards for inserting into film cans for inexperienced people to see "Please re-attach heads and tails by splicing them to the appropriate reel... yadda yadda"... You'll also notice in my film-tech picture, I am holding a cloth for cleaning out my projector between shows... I also have a beer ready to help me focus the film as well.  |  IP: Logged Wayne Keyser Master Film Handler Posts: 272 From: Arlington, Virginia, USA Registered: May 2004 posted 08-03-2009 09:58 PM                     Y'all will probably disagree, but I always strongly preferred my old Kodascope Pageant 7k2. It wore like iron, easy to thread, and had no "quirks" at all. I was never fond of Bell & Howells at all (especially those impossible-to-thread automatic-threading ones every school seemed to have).  |  IP: Logged Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 08-04-2009 04:19 PM                  Wayne - we called them "auto-shredders".  |  IP: Logged Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-04-2009 06:02 PM                     Wayne, I always loved the Kodak machines. The claw assembly was designed to wear without needing much attention other than framing. Our school district had RCA machines. My old high school had Ampro machines and I worked for the company that serviced them. They were also very rugged and very serviceable. The Bell & Howell machines were the favorites of the touring travel lecturers. Mostly because of the Xenon light sources and the ability to handle splices. KEN  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 08-04-2009 10:01 PM                     quote: Paul Mayer Also occasionally used my school's Kalart Victor 15-70s. You mean 70-15s? The 70-15 had to be my favorite, mainly due to its bass-ackward threading path. If you could learn to thread a 70-15 correctly (or, for that matter, any Victor from the beginning of time through the 80-series models, not the boring slot-threading 90-series units), you could learn to thread just about any other 16mm projector. And keeping a show running when the take-up spring belt comes undone, by manually spinning the takeup reel, is a real test of mettle, something I've experienced a few times in my junior-high-school A-V geek days. Fun machines, those Kalart-Victors.  |  IP: Logged Jarret Chessell Master Film Handler Posts: 288 From: London, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jan 2009 posted 08-05-2009 10:23 AM                     I need to replace the take-up belt on my B&H. I think humidity has a factor in it. Sometimes it works great, other times I end up having to spin the reel by hand to make sure it winds up tight enough that it will actually fit onto the take-up reel. Inspection of my belt would suggest that it's way too smooth now. I think given the choice i'd rather spin a platter for two hours rather than hand spin a take-up reel for a 2000' 16mm reel for an hour. But alas, it's party of the experience!  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 08-05-2009 10:29 AM                     You knew were a REAL 16mm operator when you were given a 2000' film and only a 1600' take-up. Nursing that extra film was much fun. Doing the rewind without spilling the film was the really fun part.  |  IP: Logged Jarret Chessell Master Film Handler Posts: 288 From: London, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jan 2009 posted 08-05-2009 10:56 AM                     I always try to have 2 spare 2000' reels on hand before i show something with an audience (I don't want to have to run into my house to my rewind bench to empty a reel between reels). I did buy one movie that gave me a bit of a surprise, someone had condensed 5 reels (2 1/2 hours) onto one 2000' and two 2200' reels. (I had no other 2200' reels). I ended up breaking it down onto the original five reels and put them on 1600' reels without difficulty. If I didn't have the spare time and I had to show it immediately i'm sure it wouldn't have gone well.  |  IP: Logged Robert E. Allen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1078 From: Checotah, Oklahoma Registered: Jul 2002 posted 08-05-2009 04:57 PM                     A few months ago I sold an Eiki 1510 modified to run 6000' reels. Shipping killed me and I sold it at a loss ($260 UPS from Oregon to Michigan). I miss it already.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 08-05-2009 09:24 PM                        Oops. Dyslexic memory settling in. I am getting old.  |  IP: Logged Jarret Chessell Master Film Handler Posts: 288 From: London, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jan 2009 posted 09-08-2009 11:38 PM                     I just successfully changed the worm gear in my B&H 2585. I chatted with a gentleman at KMR on the phone the other week. I had to wait for the parts to come in, but he was very helpful with instruction. Very time consuming, took most of the day to figure out how to take it apart, and almost as long to reassemble. I had to take one trip to canadian tire in the middle too (also consumed nearly 2L of coke in the process). So now I have a brand new worm gear, drive belt & take up belt. She runs fairly quiet now too.  |  IP: Logged

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