Five screen channel list - help needed

[Allan Young]

I left out the others because they are shorts or documentaries (aren't they?); I'd like to include only movies (exception to the rule are the two Todd-AO shorts)

Before I spend any more time refining your list, can I clarify what you mean by this? Are you planning to exclude feature-length documentaries?

[Andrea Rossi]

Thanks for the info!

About Kinopanorama: found here https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinopanorama

These are listed there as feature films:
Закон Антарктиды Law of Antarctica, The 1962*
Секрет успеха Secret of My Success. The 1965
Крепостная актриса Serf Actress, The 1963 = Batmanova, Singing Slave (1963) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Serf_Actress

I left out the others because they are shorts or documentaries (aren't they?); I'd like to include only movies (exception to the rule are the two Todd-AO shorts)

So, this is the updated list of Cinerama and Kinopanorama:

✅ Best of Cinerama, The (1963) [7-track] Cinerama three-strip
✅ Black Tulip, The (1965) [6-track] Cinerama 70mm
✅ Cinerama Holiday (1955) [8-track] Cinerama three-strip
✅ Cinerama's Russian Adventure (1965) [7-track] Cinerama three-strip
✅ Great Waltz, The (1972) [6-track] Cinerama 70mm
✅ Holiday in Spain (1962) [7-track] Cinerama three-strip
✅ How the West Was Won (1962) [7-track] Cinerama three-strip
✅ La Fayette (1961) [6-track] Cinerama 70mm
✅ Mediterranean Holiday (1964) [6-track] Cinerama 70mm
✅ Run, Run, Joe! (1974) [6-track] Cinerama 70mm
✅ Search for Paradise (1957) [8-track] Cinerama three-strip
✅ Seven Wonders of the World (1956) [8-track] Cinerama three-strip
✅ South Seas Adventure (1958) [8-track] Cinerama three-strip
✅ This is Cinerama (1952) [8-track] Cinerama three-strip
✅ Windjammer (1958) [8-track] Cinerama three-strip
✅ Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm, The (1962) [7-track] Cinerama three-strip

✅ Amazing Hunting (1962) [9-track] Kinopanorama
✅ Chronicle of Flaming Years (1961) [9-track] Kinopanorama
✅ Judgment of the Mad (1962) [9-track] Kinopanorama
✅ Law of Antarctica, The (1962) [9-track] Kinopanorama
✅ Naughty Curves (1962) [9-track] Kinopanorama
✅ Optimistic Tragedy, The (1963) [9-track] Kinopanorama
✅ Secret of My Success. The (1965) [9-track] Kinopanorama
✅ Serf Actress, The (1963) [9-track] Kinopanorama
✅ Sleeping Beauty, The (1964) [9-track] Kinopanorama
✅ Volga Flows On, The (1963) [9-track] Kinopanorama

[Allan Young]

Kinopanorama 9-track feature films:

Закон Антарктиды Law of Antarctica, The 1962
Крепостная актриса Serf Actress, The 1963
Озорные повороты Naughty Curves 1961
Оптимистическая трагедия Optimistic Tragedy, The 1963
Повесть пламенных лет Chronicle of Flaming Years 1960
Секрет успеха Secret of My Success. The 1965
Спящая красавица Sleeping Beauty, The 1964
Суд сумасшедших Judgment of the Mad 1961
Течёт Волга Volga Flows On, The 1963
Удивительная охота Amazing Hunting 1961

Not sure where you got this list from but it's partial, has some incorrect dating and includes a couple of non-Kinopanorama titles.

The following from your list are definitely Kinopanorama 9-track. I've corrected the dates.
Повесть пламенных лет Chronicle of Flaming Years 1961
Озорные повороты Naughty Curves 1962
Суд сумасшедших Judgment of the Mad 1962
Удивительная охота Amazing Hunting 1962
Оптимистическая трагедия Optimistic Tragedy, The 1963
Течёт Волга The Volga Flows On, The 1963
Спящая красавица Sleeping Beauty, The 1964

As far as I'm aware, these titles in your list were not Kinopanorama.
Закон Антарктиды Law of Antarctica, The 1962*
Крепостная актриса Serf Actress, The 1963
Секрет успеха Secret of My Success. The 1965

These are the missing 9-track Kinopanorama titles.
Great Is My Country (1958)
The Enchanted Mirror (1958)
Two Hours in the U.S.S.R. (1959)
Chas neozkhidannykh puteshestviy v polyote na vertolyote (1960) (google translate: An Hour of Unstoppable Travel in a Helicopter Flight)
Chetvyortaya programma panoramikh filmov "tsirkoyoye predstavleniye" i "na krasnoy ploschadyu" (1961) (google translate: The Fourth Program of Panorama Films "Circus Performance" and "On Red Square")
A Frenchman in Moscow (1960)
SSSR s otkritim serddem (1961) (google translate: USSR With Open Heart)
V Antarktiku za kitami (1961) (google translate: In the Antarctic for Whales)*
Volga Volga (1962) (re-edited version of The Volga Flows On)
Batmanova, Singing Slave (1963)
Na podvodnikh skuterakh (1963) (google translate: On Underwater Scooters)
Zimnie ztyutsi (1963) (google translate: Winter Colds)
Delifini prikhodyat k lyudyam (1966) (google translate: Dolphins Come to People)

(*I guess these could be the same title with different translation.)

[Allan Young]

It seems you're considering that the panning of single or double surround channels counts as a different "track" (e.g. Scent of Mystery). In which case, the early Cinerama/Cinemiracle films should be listed as 8-track:
This is Cinerama (1952) (which is missing from your list)
Cinerama Holiday (1955)
Seven Wonders of the World (1956)
Search for Paradise (1957)
South Seas Adventure (1958)
Windjammer (1958)

The later three-strip releases did away with panning the surround tracks so they're correctly listed as 7-track (The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm, How the West Was Won, Holiday in Spain).

That leaves The Best of Cinerama (1963) (which is still missing from your list) and Cinerama's Russian Adventure. Given that the surround channel panning was a costly manual process, it's highly likely these were 7-track titles.

Only the three-strip titles had 7-track or 8-track sound, so the following 70mm releases you have listed as 7-track were actually only 6-track:
The Black Tulip
The Great Waltz
La Fayette
Mediterranean Holiday
Run, Run, Joe!

[Andrea Rossi]

Thanks for the very interesting comment, Steve!

The whole "format affaire" is just to have something to put on the list - I could change them to
Dolby Stereo TODD-AO format (of five-screen channel)
Dolby Stereo mono surround
Dolby Stereo stereo surround
Dolby Stereo mono surround with Spectral Recording
Dolby Stereo stereo surround with Spectral Recording
but they are quite long

If you take a look at the updated list in the new thread, now the post-1980s releases should be OK.
The official Dolby list has only 70mm Dolby Stereo mono and stereo surround; no mention of Spectral Recording.

So, it must be assumed that, even if 6-track is capable of, well, six tracks, actually not many take advantage of the full channels, right?
As saying Dolby Stereo 35mm was capable of 4 (matrixed) channels L C R S, but maybe some did not use surround; indeed, at the end of the official Dolby list, there is the following statement:

The degree to which surround channels are utilized varies from film to film at the artistic discretion of the director.

I did not put in the list many 70mm blow-up, as I assumed (again, according to what I gathered) they used the 4-track master and thanks to 6-track they could send them non-matrixed, leaving LC/RC channels empty.

I've updated the new list according to what you wrote, changing from (five-screen channel) probably to unknown.
And you were completely right: I put my presumptions ahead of reality! Thanks again for the precious insights!

[Steve Guttag]

For what I understood:
- magnetic six-tracks before Dolby Stereo were based on TODD-AO - L LC C RC R S (later knows as Format 40)
- Dolby Stereo followed this channel order adding its noise reduction (Format 41)
- then it changed to L C R S plus "baby boom" (Format 42)
- then it changed to L C R LS RS plus LFE (Format 43)
- Format 44 is like format 41 but encoded in SRD (never had a release it seems)
- Format 45 is like format 42 but encoded in SRD
- Format 46 is like format 43 but encoded in SRD

Not sure about the formats 44 45 46, but the formats 40 41 42 43 were clearly written onto Dolby Cinema Processor CP-200 facepla

Just stop...you are putting your presumptions ahead of reality. The capability of the 70mm 6-track format was, indeed what we would later call format 40 (the format numbers really only have meaning for the CP200 as it was the only processor that actually used the two digit number to select a format. For all other processors, it was just text).

Before the CP200 (debut in 1980 with its first major release being The Empire Strikes Back...if you got one for that title, its red was darker, its grey was darker and the serial number was under 40 and maybe under 30)...the one I worked with was in the 20s), was the CP100, which had no such format numbering and the first 70mm Dolby Stereo features used the CP100.

The realities are, tracks 2 and 4 were being abandoned BEFORE Dolby came along. As mentioned before, the soundtracks, generally the last thing to be finished before a release, were topping out at 4-tracks, if they were to get a "stereo" mix, by the mid-70s. Dolby was merely reclaiming otherwise dead tracks for something that would actually improve what was being done, bass-extension, which was not part of the original CP100 configuration. It had 5 EQ cards in its chassis for the 5-screen channels (with Surround always having to pick up processing externally).

When the format, later referred to as 42 came out, for those with the CP100, one could remove their EQ cards from Le/Re and replace them with CAT 105D cards that had downward expanders and low pass filters to allow just the bass section of the more popular A4 speaker (or whatever you had) to function as just bass channels). The pivot point was really in 1977 with Star Wars. At that point, I don't know of many 70mm issues, of new titles, that did not adopt the format known as 42 as the default. If you really think there was full-range information on tracks 2 and 4 for any titles after 1977, I submit you'd need to prove that. From personal experience from 1980 onwards, and I ran or was responsible for a LOT of 70mm from that point, I didn't see it come through the theatres. On 70mm festivals, sure. On reissues, sure but those theatres that catered to that sort of thing had the equipment already installed before Dolby Stereo came along.

What you may or may not appreciate is just how rare a Stereo movie was, 70mm, or 35mm was. Most theatres getting Dolby Stereo equipment were retrofits to utilize existing speakers (and amps, in some cases). It wasn't until the 1980s when blow-ups and multiplexes went into high-gear that new-builds were getting a fair number of 70mm screens and it was more towards the middle/end of that decade. I want to say that Stereo releases before 1984 or so were in the 10-20% range...at best. Do you realize that even "tech" movies like The Terminator were released in just mono? High-brow movies were almost all mono in the early '80s.

I bring this up to emphasize that they were not mixing for 6-track. There was nothing on tracks 2 and 4 but bass extension (format 42 or format 42 compatible). Your hopes and guesses for this large database of true 6-track films (including spread mixes) after the mid 1970s just isn't there. Your belief that all movies before Dolby would have something on tracks 2 and 4 is also unfounded. Sure, that was the design of the format in the 1950s. It was definitely done throughout the 1960s but it was waning by the end of the 1960s and early 1970s.

I never handled 70mm prints of the Irwin Allen movies to know if they had anything on tracks 2 and 4 and I'd be interested to know. Patton from 1970 did.

Perhaps someone like Sam Chavez could chime in as he might have handled such movies in that era.

As to other formats like 44-46...that is the wild-west, as we say here. Anything Dolby didn't officially assign a number to was up for grabs. Here is a screen shot of one of my installations...the numbers will not align with what others claim to be formats beyond what Dolby published in the CP200-CP650 manuals:

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[Andrea Rossi]

@ Stefan:

Around the world in 80 days 1956 8-tracks - got it!

@ Steve:

if many theaters did not connect the LC/RC even before the arrival of Dolby Stereo 70mm, it doesn't mean the 6-tracks produced until then did not include them; I mean, I'm sure there were some tracks with no LC/RC or with simple spreads from L C R, but HOW someone could know it? I based my research on experience of people that posted their memories online on forums, webpages, newsgroups, but I have no way to know what was what...

For what I understood:
- magnetic six-tracks before Dolby Stereo were based on TODD-AO - L LC C RC R S (later knows as Format 40)
- Dolby Stereo followed this channel order adding its noise reduction (Format 41)
- then it changed to L C R S plus "baby boom" (Format 42)
- then it changed to L C R LS RS plus LFE (Format 43)
- Format 44 is like format 41 but encoded in SRD (never had a release it seems)
- Format 45 is like format 42 but encoded in SRD
- Format 46 is like format 43 but encoded in SRD

Not sure about the formats 44 45 46, but the formats 40 41 42 43 were clearly written onto Dolby Cinema Processor CP-200 faceplate.

@ Allan:

thanks for the info; I got this list about Cinerama; where all 7-tracks?

Black Tulip, The 1965 filmed in MCS-70; presented in 70 mm Cinerama in Europe only
Chronicle of Flaming Years 1965 filmed in Sovscope 70; presented in 70 mm Cinerama in Europe only
Cinerama Holiday 1955
Cinerama's Russian Adventure 1965 Cinerama & Sovscope 70
Great Waltz, The 1972 filmed in 35 mm Panavision, presented in 70 mm Cinerama in UK only
Holiday in Spain 1962 a re-edited version of Scent of Mystery; originally filmed in Todd-70; converted to 3-strip Cinemiracle and exhibited in both Cinemiracle and Cinerama
How the West Was Won 1962 3-strip Cinerama, although some sequences were filmed in Ultra Panavision 70
La Fayette 1961 filmed in Super Technirama 70; presented in 70 mm Cinerama in Europe only
Mediterranean Holiday 1964 filmed in Modern Cinema System 70mm (Wonderama); presented in 70 mm Cinerama
Run, Run, Joe! 1974 filmed in Todd-AO 35, presented in 70 mm Cinerama in UK only
Search for Paradise 1957 3-strip Cinerama
Seven Wonders of the World 1956 3-strip Cinerama
South Seas Adventure 1958 3-strip Cinerama
Windjammer 1958 originally filmed in 3-strip Cinemiracle; later exhibited in Cinerama
Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm, The 1962 3-strip Cinerama

Kinopanorama 9-track feature films:

Закон Антарктиды Law of Antarctica, The 1962
Крепостная актриса Serf Actress, The 1963
Озорные повороты Naughty Curves 1961
Оптимистическая трагедия Optimistic Tragedy, The 1963
Повесть пламенных лет Chronicle of Flaming Years 1960
Секрет успеха Secret of My Success. The 1965
Спящая красавица Sleeping Beauty, The 1964
Суд сумасшедших Judgment of the Mad 1961
Течёт Волга Volga Flows On, The 1963
Удивительная охота Amazing Hunting 1961

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I decided to unite this list and the DTS-SV 70mm one into a single list, updated; you will find it in the next new thread here:

http://www.film-tech.com/vbb/forum/digital-cinema-forum/28159-70mm-audio-tracks

from now on, I'll post there, so please continue to reply in that new thread, thanks!

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[Allan Young]

You've listed Cinerama Holiday under probable/6-track. This was definitely 7-track as with the other Cinerama titles. Missing from the list are the The Best of Cinerama (1963) and Cinerama's Russian Adventure (1966) (both 7-track).

Chronicle of Flaming Years (which was 1961, not 1965) is listed as 6-track. Although it was shot on 65mm, it was optically extracted to three-strip Kinopanorama and would have had 9-track sound.

Also missing are the other dozen or so 9-track Kinopanorama features.

[Steve Guttag]

Andrea, there seems to be a disconnect here. You seem to associate Dolby Stereo with the omission of tracks 2 and 4 (LC/RC). That was ALREADY HAPPENING before Dolby stepped into the picture. By the 1980s, the vast majority of cinemas putting in 70mm did not put in LC/RC. Unless it is known otherwise, you should default to all post 1980 titles as format 42 compatible, including the Ultra Stereo titles like Cobra. Honestly, I'd suspect most 1970s titles as well thought there may be some spread mixes in there.

I ran Spies Like Us. It definitely wasn't 5-across. The theatre I ran it in had all 5 screen channels. The number of format 41 titles, that were not reissues, can probably counted on 1 hand...maybe 2 but I can't think of that many. You need to REALLY set your sights a lot lower.

[Andrea Rossi]

Found an archived official list of Dolby encoded movies (dated 1998); so if it's not Dolby Stereo, it is automatically "Format 40"/Todd AO/five screen channel, right? - unless those movies were not released in 70mm with a 6-track at all... so, from the unprobable list, I found that

the following were NOT Dolby Stereo, hence they "should" be five screen channel:

1941 1979 (6-track)
Blue Lagoon, The 1980 (6-track)
Capricorn One 1978 (6-track)
Champ, The 1979 (6-track)
Cobra 1986 (6-track)
Comes a Horseman 1978 (6-track)
Cruel Horizon 1989 (6-track)
Manhunter 1986 (6-track)
Rhinestone 1984 (6-track)
Spies Like Us 1985 (6-track)
Zoot Suit 1981 (6-track)

the following were Dolby Stereo mono surround, so some may be format 41, and others format 42 (most probably):

Absolute Beginners 1986 (Dolby Stereo mono surround)
Big Trouble in Little China 1986 (Dolby Stereo mono surround)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind 1977 (Dolby Stereo mono surround)
Days of Heaven 1978 (Dolby Stereo mono surround)
Heaven’s Gate 1980 (Dolby Stereo mono surround)
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 1978 (Dolby Stereo mono surround)
Year of the Dragon 1985 (Dolby Stereo mono surround)

now, from the previous two lists, what should be confirmed:
- which titles were effectively ever released as 6-track?
- which Dolby Stereo are format 41?

PS: forgot to mention: Das Boot is listed as SRD mono surround; as it was released as SDDS-8, maybe it could be the only Format 44?!?

I consider all Dolby Stereo mono surround released after Star Wars not included in the previous lists as Format 42 (baby boom) unless stated otherwise.

The European films are probably not covered in a list, and if you ask officially, many 3 channel titles with zero data on the inner tracks are in the list, mostly Warner, as there was a discount in mastering 8 track. I do remember Anatomy 1 and Anatomy 2 to be mastered in 8 track,

WHAT?!? So, Sony officially listed 5.1 masters but released as 7.1 as SDDS 8-channel? So maybe this is the reason why late lists did not include some titles?

Anatomie 1 and 2 - I heard about them, but now it seems more official!

[Stefan Scholz]

AFAIK there are about a hundred SDDS-8 movies; I wonder if those European movies you are talking about were in the list - like Les Miserables.

The European films are probably not covered in a list, and if you ask officially, many 3 channel titles with zero data on the inner tracks are in the list, mostly Warner, as there was a discount in mastering 8 track. I do remember Anatomy 1 and Anatomy 2 to be mastered in 8 track, these were German production. Another one is a movie about "life of teens in a high rise building project area in Berlin", which was mastered 8 Ch, but never made it to the movie screen. I forgot the title. And some more, due to the forementioned initiative of EU cultural subsidizations.

Michael Todds "Around the world in 80 days", is one of the very first 70 mm roadshows. This title at the played in Cinestage sound, which not only featured 5 front tracks, but also used expanded surround to a left right and rear channel using Fairchild's Perspect-A-(sound) decoding, or from 8 tk sep mag players. This made it 8 channel. The first rdshow installations played that way, reissues were conventional. I still have the original invoice for the installation and rental cost of the sound system additions ($1k per week) in 1957.

[Andrea Rossi]

Thanks for all your inputs!

I can't edit the first post, so until I've found out which are which, I've divided the list in three chunks:

Five-screen channel feature films | certain, or almost

2001: a Space Odyssey 1968 (6-track)
Agony and the Ecstasy, The 1965 (6-track)
Air Force One 1997 (SDDS-8)
Airport 1970 (6-track)
Alamo, The 1960 (6-track)
Annie 1982 (format 41)
Around the World in 80 Days 1956 (6-track)
Baraka 1992 (6-track)
Bible: in the Beginning..., The 1966 (6-track)
Can-Can 1960 (6-track)
Cleopatra 1963 (6-track)
Doctor Dolittle 1967 (6-track)
Erin Brockovich 2000 (SDDS-8)
Hello, Dolly! 1969 (6-track)
How the West Was Won 1962 (7-track)
In the Line of Fire 1993 (SDDS-8)
It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World 1963 (6-track)
Khartoum 1966 (6-track)
Krakatoa, East of Java 1969 (6-track)
Last Action Hero 1993 (SDDS-8)
Last Valley, The 1971 (6-track)
Lawrence of Arabia 1962 (6-track)
Man in the 5th Dimension 1964 (6-track)
Men in Black 1997 (SDDS-8)
Ocean's Eleven 2001 (SDDS-8)
Ocean's Thirteen 2007 (SDDS-8)
Oklahoma! 1955 (6-track)
Out of Sight 1998 (SDDS-8)
Patton 1970 (6-track)
Pearl Harbor 2001 (SDDS-8)
Porgy and Bess 1959 (6-track)
Scent of Mystery 1960 (6-track)
Search for Paradise 1957 (7-track)
Seven Wonders of the World 1956 (7-track)
Sound of Music, The 1965 (6-track)
South Pacific 1958 (6-track)
South Seas Adventure 1958 (7-track)
Star! 1968 (6-track)
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines 1965 (6-track)
West Side Story 1961 (6-track)
Windjammer 1958 (7-track)
Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm, The 1962 (7-track)

Five-screen channel feature films | probable

55 Days at Peking 1963 (6-track)
Adventurers, The 1970 (6-track)
Alfred the Great 1969 (6-track)
Andromeda Strain, The 1971 (6-track)
Anna Karenina 1967 (6-track)
Anne of the Thousand Days 1969 (6-track)
Antony and Cleopatra 1972 (6-track)
Barabbas 1961 (6-track)
Battle of Britain 1969 (6-track)
Battle of the Bulge 1965 (6-track)
Becket 1964 (6-track)
Ben-Hur 1959 (6-track)
Big Fisherman, The 1959 (6-track)
Black Tights 1961 (6-track)
Black Tulip, The 1965 (6-track)
Blue Max, The 1966 (6-track)
Born Free 1966 (6-track)
Bridge Too Far, a 1977 (6-track)
Bye Bye Birdie 1963 (6-track)
Camelot 1967 (6-track)
Cardinal, The 1963 (6-track)
Carpetbaggers, The 1964 (6-track)
Castle Keep 1969 (6-track)
Chaikovsky 1970 (6-track)
Charge of the Light Brigade , The 1968 (6-track)
Cheyenne Autumn 1964 (6-track)
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang 1968 (6-track)
Chronicle of Flaming Years 1965 (6-track)
Cinerama Holiday 1955 (6-track)
Circus World 1964 (6-track)
Comedians, The 1967 (6-track)
Concert for Bangladesh, The 1972 (6-track)
Cowboys, The 1972 (6-track)
Cromwell 1970 (6-track)
Darling Lili 1970 (6-track)
Deliverance 1972 (6-track)
Dersu Uzala 1975 (6-track)
Doctor Zhivago 1965 (6-track)
Earthquake 1974 (6-track)
El Cid 1961 (6-track)
Exodus 1960 (6-track)
Fall of the Roman Empire, The 1964 (6-track)
Far From the Madding Crowd 1967 (6-track)
Fiddler on the Roof 1971 (6-track)
First Men in the Moon 1964 (6-track)
Flying Clipper - Traumreise unter weissen Segeln 1962 (6-track)
Funny Girl 1968 (6-track)
Funny Lady 1975 (6-track)
Golden Head, The 1965 (6-track)
Goodbye, Mr. Chips 1969 (6-track)
Grand Prix 1966 (6-track)
Great Wall, The 1962 (6-track)
Great Waltz, The 1972 (6-track)
Greatest Story Ever Told, The 1965 (6-track)
Guns for San Sebastian 1968 (6-track)
Guns of Navarone, The 1961 (6-track)
Half a Sixpence 1967 (6-track)
Hallelujah Trail, The 1965 (6-track)
Hawaii 1966 (6-track)
Hellfighters 1968 (6-track)
Hindenburg, The 1975 (6-track)
Holiday in Spain 1962 (6-track)
Ice Station Zebra 1968 (6-track)
Imperial Venus 1962 (6-track)
In Harm’s Way 1965 (6-track)
Innocents Abroad 1959 (6-track)
Is Paris Burning? 1966 (6-track)
Jeremiah Johnson 1972 (6-track)
Kelly's Heroes 1970 (6-track)
King and I, The 1956 (6-track)
King Kong 1976 (6-track)
King of Kings 1961 (6-track)
La Fayette 1961 (6-track)
Le Corsaire 1965 (6-track)
Le Mans 1971 (6-track)
Let the Good Times Roll 1973 (6-track)
Lion in Winter, The 1968 (6-track)
Little Big Man 1970 (6-track)
Logan’s Run 1976 (format 41)
Long Ships, The 1964 (6-track)
Longest Day, The 1962 (6-track)
Lord Jim 1965 (6-track)
Lost Horizon 1973 (6-track)
Lucky Lady 1975 (6-track)
MacKenna's Gold 1969 (6-track)
Man of La Mancha 1972 (6-track)
Man with the Golden Gun, The 1974 (6-track)
Marooned 1969 (6-track)
Mary, Queen of Scots 1971 (6-track)
Mayerling 1968 (6-track)
Mediterranean Holiday 1964 (6-track)
Miracle of Todd-AO, The 1956 (6-track)
Mutiny on the Bounty 1962 (6-track)
My Fair Lady 1964 (6-track)
Nicholas and Alexandra 1971 (6-track)
Oklahoma! 1955 (6-track)
Oliver! 1968 (6-track)
Operation Crossbow 1965 (6-track)
Othello 1965 (6-track)
Paint Your Wagon 1969 (6-track)
Panorama Blue 1974 (6-track)
Paper Tiger 1975 (6-track)
Papillon 1973 (6-track)
Pink Panther, The 1963 (6-track)
Poseidon Adventure, The 1972 (6-track)
Professionals, The 1966 (6-track)
Raintree County 1957 (6-track)
Return of a Man Called Horse, The 1976 (6-track)
Rollerball 1975 (6-track)
Rollercoaster 1971 (6-track)
Run, Run, Joe! 1974 (6-track)
Ryan's Daughter 1970 (6-track)
Sand Pebbles, The 1966 (6-track)
Savage Innocents, The 1961 (6-track)
Scrooge 1970 (6-track)
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers 1954 (6-track)
Shellarama 1965 (6-track)
Shoes of the Fisherman, The 1968 (6-track)
Silent Running 1972 (6-track)
Sleeping Beauty 1959 (6-track)
Solomon and Sheba 1959 (6-track)
Song of Norway 1970 (6-track)
Spartacus 1960 (6-track)
Star Is Born, A 1976 (format 41)
Sweet Charity 1969 (6-track)
Taming of the Shrew, The 1967 (6-track)
Taras Bulba 1962 (6-track)
That's Entertainment! 1974 (6-track)
That’s Entertainment, Part II 1974 (6-track)
Thoroughly Modern Millie 1967 (6-track)
Tom Sawyer 1973 (6-track)
Too Late the Hero 1970 (6-track)
Tora! Tora! Tora! 1970 (6-track)
Towering Inferno, The 1974 (6-track)
Trial of Billy Jack, The 1974 (6-track)
Unsinkable Molly Brown, The 1964 (6-track)
Waterloo 1970 (6-track)
Where Eagles Dare 1969 (6-track)
Wild Bunch, The 1969 (6-track)
Wild Rovers 1971 (6-track)
Wind and the Lion, The 1975 (6-track)
Winning 1969 (6-track)
Woodstock 1970 (6-track)
You Only Live Twice 1967 (6-track)
Young Winston 1972 (6-track)
Zulu 1964 (6-track)

Five-screen channel feature films | not probable at all

1941 1979 (6-track)
Absolute Beginners 1986 (format 41)
Big Trouble in Little China 1986 (format 41)
Blue Lagoon, The 1980 (6-track)
Capricorn One 1978 (6-track)
Champ, The 1979 (6-track)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind 1977 (format 41)
Cobra 1986 (6-track)
Comes a Horseman 1978 (6-track)
Cruel Horizon 1989 (6-track)
Days of Heaven 1978 (format 41)
Heaven’s Gate 1980 (format 41)
Manhunter 1986 (format 41)
Rhinestone 1984 (format 41)
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 1978 (format 41)
Spies Like Us 1985 (6-track)
Year of the Dragon 1985 (format 41)
Zoot Suit 1981 (6-track)

To help me further, for the next posts please write the titles in bold, so it will be easier to spot them and subsequently edit the list.
The common experience here is very helpful and appreciated: THANKS AGAIN!

[Steve Guttag]

I'd say that any of the Steven Soderbergh movies (i.e. any of the Oceans movies) of the SDDS era would be SDDS-8. His sound mixer, Larry Blake was a proponent of the channel arrangement. He used it to keep sound elements from sharing the same speakers as other elements rather than for better localized panning, for instance. The notes in the can for his movies were clear that if you didn't have 5-across, play it in 5.1 rather than some mix-down, which would defeat the purpose of the separate mix and not be what he laid down.

[Jerry G. Axelsson]

Hello Andrea, for what it is worth.

Apocalype Now (1979) was the first official format 43 in 70mm with split surround as far as I know. I assume they did tests with some title before, but I have not heard about specific titles such as SUPERMAN which you list above.
Most of the 80:titles you list above I would say was format 42 (70mm Dolby Stereo). We have BRAINSTORM in 70mm at out archive and it is format 42.

[Andrea Rossi]

Actually, there were a bigger number of European movies (actually most are teleplays) released in SDDS 8, due to the fact, that extra EU subsidization was granted for using enhanced technology. These films never played 8 channels outside the premiere screenings, the arthouse theatres they played in eventually were glorious mono, or optical SVA at best.

AFAIK there are about a hundred SDDS-8 movies; I wonder if those European movies you are talking about were in the list - like Les Miserables.