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Jon Bartow
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From: Massachusetts
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 12-16-1999 10:58 PM      Profile for Jon Bartow   Email Jon Bartow   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ahh... Managers moving films in booths. Need I say more? One former manager (who thankfully is no longer in the industry) was attempting to move Godzilla (the new one) from the bottom deck of a Christie AW5 to the top deck without any help. (for those of you who have never seen a 5-deck platter a: count your blessings b: there is only about 5 inches between the brains and the arm of the platter above c:the top deck is about 6 1/2 feet off of the floor) He was only using two clamps which were not big enough anyway. Needless to say he dropped it halfway onto the top platter. Then he left it there!!! When I came in for the evening shift it was still there! Four hours later it was all back in one piece (sort of, scratched to hell).
That same manager also liked to blame his projection mistakes on everyone else. Once he even accused me of threading every projector backwards! (soundtrack on the wrong side)
I've also had the rewind bench go haywire while rewinding a 6000' and destroy about 100' of film. Little bits of film stuck to the ceiling, walls, projectors, everything.
Worst disaster was probably with Titanic (may the film be forever cursed). About two months into the run I had wound it onto three 6000' reels so I could inspect. After winding all three reels I started to rewind the first reel. Then the motor on the rewind bench burned out (smoke and everything!) So I had to use our only make-up table and two AW3R platters to rewind the rest of the print. Took forever.

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 12-17-1999 08:05 AM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If you look at the pictures of the Ontario Place cinesphere in the warehouse this will help to understand what happened thew other day
10 minutes before Blue planet ended The payout reel servo motor decided that it should try to pull film out of the running projector not feed it in
One awfull noise as the rotar started to shredd perfs (the film is only running at approx 336feet per minute) Hitting emergancy stop the take up reel went slack and then reenergised itself rappidly accelerating a full takeup plater (200+lbs) to full speed and actually snapping the print (70mm polyester) as well as some roller shafts clean off
Lots of fun had by all and a few new words created for the Lexicon of terms

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Jason Burroughs
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 - posted 12-17-1999 09:36 AM      Profile for Jason Burroughs   Email Jason Burroughs   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've had a few disasters, most of them recovering from annother projectionist's mistakes. At the AMC Prestonwood 5 (pics are in the warehouse) the failsafes were notorious for sticking in the "up" position, if the platter stopped taking up for whatever reason (equipment at this location was very poor) the film would just pay out onto the floor 6ft below...
I've seen Phantom Menace suck the tail UNDER the last 2 reels and start trying to double feed, that was a mess to clean up (wish we had film-guard back then to fix the static problems). I too have had exploding bulbs etc, once right as I started the projector scared the bejezus outta me.
and on the pet peeve side... power outages, and fire alarms....

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 12-17-1999 04:11 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Failsafes sticking in the up position? Yikes. I have a similar problem, except that my failsafes don't work at all! You could have probably fixed your problem, but my problem lies with my Christie/Pennywise CA21 automation, which Christie/Pennywise WILL NOT FIX! Lots of fun to be had at my theatre.

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John Wilson
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 - posted 12-17-1999 06:35 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think the worst one I ever heard of was in an old rep house here in Sydney. They were playing A Room With A View and at the other sessions Syd and Nancy. (Can you see what's coming here?)

Anyway, all the old dears are in watching the lovely scenery of Florence in 'Room' when the changeover occurs and there in all it's glory was a shot of Syd Viscious biting the head off a rat.

Many Gin and Tonics handed out after that.



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Johanna Innes
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 - posted 12-17-1999 11:39 PM      Profile for Johanna Innes   Email Johanna Innes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've got a beaut of a booth disaster. This was about 2 weeks ago, and I had come in early Friday morning to finish making up a print I hadn't had time for the night before.
A little layout info: we have 3 projectors, lined up in a row in a booth about 300 feet long.

I had a loop of trailers (not on a reel, just looped) in my hand (I was moving them from the print on #2 to the new makeup), and was just heading down to the far end of the booth to #3 to get started. I heard a light dripping noise, and thought to myself "Jeez, the toilet must be overflowing up here. That'll be a beast to clean up". I turned around to look in the bathroom (right beside #2), and the dripping got VERY VERY loud. I hadn't even taken one step towards it when the ceiling over #1 gave way, and a huge torrent of water came pouring out.

I have never moved so fast in my life.

I tossed the trailers onto the platter of #2 (hoping they'd stay wound correctly, but the least of my worries at that point), and sprinted over to #1. The ceiling tiles over the amp and the sound unit (no clue what it's called -- has the DTS, the volume control, switcher from non-sync to optical, etc) were sagging down, and water was pouring out. And did I mention the CD player for the non-sync was right under the flow as well?

I swear, I nearly threw up. Images of cancelling all our shows in #1 (our biggest and only DTS-equipped theatre) for weeks danced through my head. I didn't actually vomit, but I think I may have invented some new expletives.

Long story short, we cleaned up all the water, put a bucket on top of the amp to catch the drips (which eventually slowed to a trickle), and called a roofer. All the equipment is (miraculously) unharmed, with the only casualty being a red switch that no longer lights up.

Later that same day (which was a very rainy one), we developed a leak in the roof over #2 which not only dripped into the booth, but ran down the wall in the back of the auditorium, and an old leak by #3 re-opened.
It turns out they had re-sealed around our 3 A/C units, to avoid any leaks like the one we had a while ago in #3. I think they may have forgotten a vital step in the process, which is to say actually putting down any sealant.

I managed to get that print made up in time for the first show, and the trailers I had tossed landed without unraveling. Unbelieveable.

Anyway, that really took the cake as my worst booth experience, and that includes things like breaking down a 30 reel movie onto plastic cores without a split reel, dropping a 4-reel canister on my foot (used some of those new expletives for that one), sound drum falling off, etc, etc, etc.

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Mike Bianchi
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From: Independence, KY, USA
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 - posted 12-17-1999 11:57 PM      Profile for Mike Bianchi   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Bianchi   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dixie Gardens Drive-In, Ft. Wright, Kentucky. Circa 1990

Weeks prior to opening, the local tech. walked into the booth and discovered that bandits had completely stripped the booth of copper wire. That was the end and the DI never reopened.

Incidentally, there were no signs of forced entry and no other vandalism. I'll always be convinced the local District Manager gave a set of keys to some recyclers to ensure the headache DI would no reopen.

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Robb Johnston
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 - posted 12-18-1999 12:19 AM      Profile for Robb Johnston   Author's Homepage   Email Robb Johnston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
2 stories. I get a call around 1230 in the morning to come in to the theatre. At the time projectionists were only scheduled until the trailer cores had run through on the last run of the day, leaving the automations to handle the rest of the run. In any case the platters stopped taking up on clear and Present Danger about half-way through the first reel, but the projector continued to push film through the failsafe.

Film continued to pile up on floor to the sound rack on one side and to the platters on the other. by the scene when "Jack Ryan" confronts the president film had piled so high that it began to to get sucked into the lower continuous feed sprocket. As more film got sucked into the Christie p35 it worked open the pad roller a little at a time until it was all the way open and would no longer rotate.

Seeing the film melta patronthought there was a fire in the booth and called 911. They showed no alarm, called the mall where the theatre is located. They had nothing on their board and called the theatre where the manager shut everything down, and called for the calvary. It took until 6 in the morning to wind the film up, and for the better part of that week (until a replacement reel(s) arrived) it cut from the 1st third of the speech to Harrison Ford entering Congress.

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Robb Johnston
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 - posted 12-18-1999 12:31 AM      Profile for Robb Johnston   Author's Homepage   Email Robb Johnston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Second story, Independence day, opening weekend, midnight show. I am checking presentations from the auditoriums (Note that projectionists stayed until the end of the night at that point). I paused a moment because I liked the simple effect of the blue sky fading to a starscape as the leads flew up to the mothership. All of a sudden the picture starts jumping violently and the sound goes to a machine gun sound. I don't remember getting out my key or opening the door to the stairs, I just remember hitting stop and getting the manager.

The last few reels were staticcy and the platter tried to throw the print, but it was held on by the brain. Half of the loop of the remaining reels was pushed past the platter wheel of the ORC platter system. I eased the rest through and saw that the film was basically intact. I went down to the auditorium where the manager was handing out re-admits and and said that if the patrons were willing to miss about 4 minutes of the film that they could see the end of the movie.

I had an usher help me move what had run through to a different platter system, pulled the 3 minutes of film that had spiralled up the feed out to the tree off, and threaded the intact remainder of the film to a new core ring.

By the time the film ended, I had the mess wound up on the begining of the movie, rewound the end to a house reel and then re-attached it to the film. I got out of there only about 20 minutes later than I would have otherwise.

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George Roher
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 - posted 12-18-1999 12:35 AM      Profile for George Roher   Email George Roher   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've had some problems with leaks in the booth as well, but not as bad as in Johanna's post.
The worst "booth flood" I had was in a booth that was directly under a concession stand. One of the pipes from the soda machine busted and we had an ocean of Pepsi in the booth (which didn't land on or harm any equipment). It rotted the ceiling tiles and the booth smelled like spoiled milk for a while.

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Jim Ziegler
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 - posted 12-18-1999 02:13 AM      Profile for Jim Ziegler   Email Jim Ziegler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We had a situation once where someone was working on the roof and left the ahtch open (which is in the booth)... There was a massive rainstorm that night which resulted in a signifigant part of that booth having standing water on the floor (noting hit equipment, however)... Anyway, the projectionist did his best to mop up this mess before he had to start shows, but could not get it all before he had to start the films.

Anyway, he goes out of this booth to the next one to thread and start another house..

Meanwhile the takeup platter stops running and film dumps onto the still damp floor...

Luckily, we lost that print 2 days later, but it always stopped once on reel 1...

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Erika Hellgren
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 - posted 12-18-1999 02:18 AM      Profile for Erika Hellgren   Email Erika Hellgren   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brett,

Sorry it took me so long to reply, but yes, the explosion was that bad. I wasn't exaggerating at all, as you can probably tell from others' stories.

I treat bulbs with a great deal of respect - I don't touch them. I leave that fun stuff to the techs.

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Michael Cunningham
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 - posted 12-18-1999 05:45 AM      Profile for Michael Cunningham   Email Michael Cunningham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Xenon lamps are not that deadly to handle. In my years in the booth, I have never had one explode on me. Am I just lucky? Probably, but I also treat these potential hazards with a great deal of respect and follow all of the manufacturer's instructions regarding their handling. I'd like to think that has something to do with never exploding one. Besides, if you don't learn about them, you are ignoring information about a very critical part of the entire projection process!

-Mike

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John Walsh
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 - posted 12-18-1999 10:10 AM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Not quite a disaster, but....

We had 'twined' a theater, and installed new (natural gas powered) roof top combo heat/air conditioners. (The place was originally bulit in 1949, with a big old ammonia AC system, but they never included a vent for it in the booth.) The rear of one auditourium and the booth was shared by one new AC unit. The controlling thermostat was installed in the back of the auditourium, and had a cheap plastic 'lock box' on it.

There was a summer heat wave, and the cleaners must've decided they wanted to be cool while cleaning up. They used a screwdriver to reach into the lock box and push the thermostat "TEMP" lever down. Except they forced the lever so hard, they busted up the thermostat.

I came in the next day at about 5:00pm, and it was so cold, I could see my breath (no, from condensation you wise guys!) There was a temp gauge on the wall; it read 28'F. There was frost on the outside of the window. My fingers were getting numb from touching anything metal. There was surface ice in the circulator, which would'nt hurt anything, but residual water had frozen in the gate, blocking it. It took a few tries to ingite the lamp, and the projector motor had to really work. The film seemed to do OK (acetate,) but the splices made a loud sound when going through.

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 12-18-1999 03:28 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There is such a thing as defective bulbs. I have never had one explode on me, but I have seen defective bulbs. About 6 months ago I installed a bulb and when I put light onscreen it was very dim and unstable. I immediately shut off the lamp and let it cool for a few minutes and looked inside. The bulb had clouded up and turned grey. It had a leak somewhere and oxygen was getting in. We shipped it back and got a warranty replacement for the bulb since it was brand new. I have also seen this happen when the bulb is over a 1000 hours old. Such bulbs must be replaced immediately.

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