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System Notices
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Beau Button
Film Handler

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From: Harvard, Illinois, Usa
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Not a projectionist either (yet, but perhaps will be someday) but was in a booth when a minor disaster struck.
Actually, i was interviewing for a position (didn't get it as my avalability wasn't sufficient and the position wasn't what i wanted anyways), but i digress..
The theater in question is the woodstock Il cheap theater (then a twin now a quad) and while sitting in the office which directly abuts the booth at the same time They were running an interlock on both screens (the audience was primarily children and parents as this was a special early day cheap run of a movie already released on video for kids) , there is a sound like a measuring tape followed by an alarm from the automation system and the manager darts passed me, the film had come undone and was nicely crinkeled in some places, needless to say the manager was pretty flustered as he ran from one end of the boot to the other fixing the film, me sitting there with no training helpless to do anything but watch as he tries to continue the interview while fixing the film. A few cuts and splices (and refunds) later the film was back up and running and all went well as far as I know.

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Jeremy Fuentes
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quote: Beau Button
me sitting there with no training helpless to do anything but watch as he tries to continue the interview while fixing the film.
He tried to continue the interview??? Doesnt sound like"film done right" to me. He should have been concentrating on the film, I think you could have waited a few minutes for him to do so. But thats just me.

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Dominique Replogle
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From: Highland Utah
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 - posted 04-28-2004 04:18 PM      Profile for Dominique Replogle   Author's Homepage   Email Dominique Replogle   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
[sleep] We once had a projectionist that was about to start a film in our booth. He had threaded Ghosts of the Abyss and was about to start the movie when it became necessarry to point out that it is not wise to try to run a movie WITHOUT PTR'S. He was then asked to step aside and the PTR's were put on the projector. More problems followed as time went on. Let's just say he does not work here any more.
(not a disaster, but a near disaster)

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Richard Greco
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I might just be clueless here but what are PTR's?

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Dominique Replogle
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Particle Transfer Rollers. The rubber coated metal hubs you thread around on the projector.

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Scott Norwood
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Check out Joe's review of PTR rollers for more information about how they work. I don't personally agree with his conclusion, but this isn't the right thread to discuss that.

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John Pytlak
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PTRs are Particle Transfer Roller film cleaners. They are soft polyurethane rollers that have a slightly sticky surface, so any dirt on the film adheres to the PTR. They can be reused by washing the dirt off with detergent and water, or even by simply using a slightly adhesive tape to remove the accumulated dirt.

PTRs are widely used by labs on printers and telecines, in IMAX theatres, or any application where you cannot leave a residue on the film (e.g., IMAX projectors bring the film into direct contact with the "field lens").

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Brandon Willis
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Moving "Gods and Generals" on a donut, with 3 people, while the print was still built up.
Enough said.

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Chris Medley
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God's and Generals...no contest here...I had to go pick up one of our prints of Passion from Cinemark Tinseltown when they had the big hoopla over there on opening day. I had another manager helping me and we had to take it off the platter down two flights of stairs, down an elevator and through the most packed lobby in history while reporters are trying to tak epicture sof the print and ask for comments...i handed one of them the keys and told him to "make himslef useful and open the trunk"...ohh and did i mention we did this with clamps(not my choice, we didn't have time) and while it was raining....God's and Generals indeed [Roll Eyes] [Big Grin]

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Jeff Stuckey
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Two big ones that I can remember.

I had a xenon bulb explode inside a projector. We were cleaning glass up for a long time after that. Thank God no one was actually standing close when it happened.

Opening night of a theater in Tulsa...running interlock on 'The Horse Whisperer'. Someone put cue tape on the wrong way. It shut down one projector while the other kept playing. It ended up bending some of the rollers. Luckilly, it was at the beginning of the credits. Still people wanted refunds. I guess because they missed who the key grip was.

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Joshua Waaland
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First: I was working at Cinemark Tinseltown 10 in Sandusky, Ohio. Our booth was in an L formation so I could not keep an eye on everything at once. I was threading a projector for the next showing and had a call on the radio of a customer complaining that a film had quit. Thinking that it was just a failsafe I went to see what had happened. Of the 5,000 ceiling tiles in that big frickin booth wouldn't you know that one that was directly over the projector had filled with water from a roof leak and fell right on the projector. I was cleaning the mud out of the projector for the next 4 hours!

Second: I was working at Cinemark 15 in Macedonia, Ohio and I got a call on the radio again that a customer had complained about a stopped film. It was a 7pm showing on a Friday night of the movie Pitch Black with Vin Diesel. The theater was one week away from being one year old. The belt on the Christie projector had snapped and the shutter stopped right in front of the bulb. The movie actually went Pitch Black. [Smile] But wait, that's not the end. We moved the print (we cut the film and luckily the AW3 platters are removable) and we moved both platters and the audience to the next house. Ten minutes after starting it again the same damn thing happened in that house! I later looked at the projector manuals and they suggested that the belts be changed yearly. They weren't kidding!

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Brandon Willis
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"Gods and Generals" : The tail of the print was almost flush with the edge of the platter deck.
A coworker of mine likes to move prints himself to show how badass he is. He has dropped "Shanghai Knights" and "The Ladykillers" while doing this.

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Chris Medley
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Dropped two!!! Oh my lord!!! I went through a really rough payroll period and I was having to send the projectionist home on thursday nights after he was done building, leaving me to screen and move. I had moved prints a hundred times by myself before and one night one of the clamps gave way on Cold Mountian as I was putting it on the platter...After five hours of fixing(with the help of another manager) i swore off solo moving unless there was no other choice.... Like the old man always said...You mess up once, and it's experiance...you make the same mistake again, and your a damn fool.

I hate it when the projectionists try to show off...yeah 9 out of 10 times nothing happens, but it only takes one screwup in the booth to cause thousands in damage.

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Scott Norwood sez:
I don't personally agree with his conclusion
Ummmmm Scott? You might want to rethink your opinions on this one or I will strip away your moderator status. Notice that John Pytlak ISN'T a moderator. See? Good. You don't want your worst booth disaster to be something like "being proven wrong by Joe Redifer" or whatnot.

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