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Author Topic: updating trailers on a print that is held over Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 11-01-2004 04:49 PM                        Jason, the 19" diameter center ring is part number 2468196.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-01-2004 06:18 PM                     An even better option is to just buy a standard ring from Christie and drill two extra holes in your Strong decks for them. Christie's small ring is 19" (or you could get their really big one) and is 10,000 times more durable than the Strong rings. I would expect for the pricing to be very similar as well.  |  IP: Logged Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-03-2004 02:18 PM                     I too have extensively used Steve's "sponge technique". If you take the styrofoam end caps that accompany a xenon bulb out of the cardboard box (the outer shipping box), they usually have four legs on them you can cut off. The styrofoam is used to hold the smaller cardboard box, containing the xenon bulb, in the center of the bigger shipping box. These "legs" are the perfect size for marking trailer changes. What you do is wait until the last trailer goes through and when it reaches the take-up ring you put this small soft piece of styrofoam (or a sponge) where the last splice is. This creates a lump in the film making it look more like an egg shape on the platter. Then when the feature finishes, unless you are Steve and do it during the run, you have plenty of room to remove the ring and trailers and insert the new ones. I have found this to be a dependable method and always worked for me.  |  IP: Logged Michael Rourke Expert Film Handler Posts: 159 From: San Luis Obispo, Central Coast of CA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-06-2004 04:38 AM                     Get with the times guys, get one of these: http://www.rsem.com/equipment-details.asp?partnum=5810007 and one of these: http://www.rsem.com/equipment-details.asp?partnum=5810014 My last trailer retrieval reel came in metallic blue, very striking.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-06-2004 07:12 AM                        Those "trailer retrieval reels" are the most useless pieces of booth equipment ever. Among other problems, the "expandable hub" has a tendency to collapse, rather than stay expanded. Just say "no" to this product.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Mehocic Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 804 From: New Castle, PA, USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-06-2004 06:46 PM                     Make it official . . . do a formal review of these products so as we may determine the good and bad points.  |  IP: Logged Chase Hanson Expert Film Handler Posts: 172 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Oct 2004 posted 11-06-2004 07:14 PM                     ima cheap bastard and just rebuild the entire trailer ring, and use that split ring hub mofo ( we call it a drop ring ), to drop it in. Since the hub center ring is smaller than our Strong's you can usually net a trailer or two and still have plenty o' room to reattach to the feature. Excluding the actual trailer ring build it takes me all of two minutes to swap out.  |  IP: Logged Chris Brown Expert Film Handler Posts: 105 From: Fairport, NY, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 02-01-2005 02:37 AM                        Interesting topic here...in my booth we have Strong platters. I havent worked with anything else but they seem to handle trailer changes fairly well. I've never been one to use sponges or any other type of markers...I usually find it easiest to just look through the film for the end of the trailer I need to pull. Long as there is sufficient light, this is pretty easy actually. Anyhow... Whenever I have to do change outs, I just manually pull the trailer by tearing the splices, then remove the remaining inner ring, put it on another platter, feed the new trailer onto it, then drop the ring back into the center. Sometimes it can be a tight fit, but usually it works ok. Much easier now than it was during the days before we had DCN...throwing a bunch of rolling stock ads made things a lot more tricky. Without those to worry about, its a breeze.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 02-01-2005 03:23 AM                     quote: Scott Norwood Just say "no" to this product. I fully agree! I haven't seen one of these POS's for a long time and want to forget these as well. Bad concept from Goldberg. Chris: head over to the manual section, and you'll see a page with the 19inch STRONG trailer ring that is available. This ring has tabs that the pins are mounted, that this ring can be mounted in the normal platter holes. Wind your feature on this ring, then when it's time for trailer changout, this ring will already enlarge the center of the filmwind for you to reinsert new trailers/REG rolling stock BS. http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/wareview.php?id=925&category=2 -Monte  |  IP: Logged Chris Brown Expert Film Handler Posts: 105 From: Fairport, NY, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 02-01-2005 12:21 PM                        Very cool, thanks Monte! I'd love to have one of these...maybe I can talk my GM into investing in one or two of these. It would definitely be a little more convenient. Thanks!  |  IP: Logged Phil Blake Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 558 From: esperance western australia Registered: Nov 2003 posted 02-02-2005 09:42 AM                        I have posted this piece of vital booth equipment before. The most wonderous implement for quickly adding or removing trailers/ads from a film on a plate. we just call it a film spinner in Australia  |  IP: Logged Thomas Dieter Expert Film Handler Posts: 234 From: Yakima, WA Registered: Jun 2004 posted 02-02-2005 10:07 AM                     While I worked for the movie theatres in Yakima, we use Orc platters with orc building tables. Because of the Rewind plate to tear down the print was about 6" in diameter, we would clean the table, place the trailers that were going to be presented on the film on the free spinning spool, witht he sound track DOWN. If you had it up, it didn't work. Then we would take and have that spin round the rewind plate, until it finished. We would then, while the trailers are "rewindind" themselves, take out the trailers that need to be taken out from the center of the platter. Finally, we would place the new trailers in with the soundtrack UP, and spice the two ends together, and vwalla, the film is on screen with everything looking crystal clear.  |  IP: Logged

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