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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
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CDS was also installed at the former UCI (now the Odeon) West Thurrock, Lakeside Retail Park, Grays, West Thurrock, Essex. Members of the CEA were invited by the MD to any screening of Terminator 2. Unfortunately I never had the time to attend. I heard that the quality was excellent.

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Sam King
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 - posted 03-27-2007 04:23 PM      Profile for Sam King   Email Sam King   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My, what a snazzy reader and such a streamlined processor! It's like something out of the not-so-distant future!

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Monte L Fullmer
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...if you want some good reading on the CDS subject .. and this bring back tons of memories on these KODAK "Film Notes for the Reel People" booklets that I used to get all the time ...

..great booth education can come out of these publications..

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John Walsh
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The reader (in the picture) is a 'repurposed' Century mag head. Was that the way all CDS readers were sold?

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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 - posted 03-28-2007 08:45 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John,

If you are referring to the picture on the previous page...you are most mistaken. It is not a repurposed R31 (Mag head).

However, since ORC was the owner of Century Projector corp at the time, they used JJ parts since they already existed and were in production for the sprockets, guides and pad rollers.

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Sam D. Chavez
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it is an entirely different casting but uses many parts from the JJ penthouse as Steve said.

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John Walsh
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Ah, I see. I had just looked at the pad roller parts. Too bad about CDS; I guess it was just a little too ahead of it's time.

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Robert Minichino
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Does anyone know if any CDS prints are available to rent? We've got a processor/reader that I presume works and it might be fun to set it up and give it a try (especially if I can get a second reader to do changeover).

[beer]

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Brad Miller
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Yes, Sony has saved a 70mm CDS print of all of their titles. Contact Sony repertory to book them.

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Michael Coate
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quote: Robert Minichino
Does anyone know if any CDS prints are available to rent?
quote: Brad Miller
Yes, Sony has saved a 70mm CDS print of all of their titles. Contact Sony repertory to book them.

Of the ten titles believed to have been released in CDS, five of them were released through Sony (i.e. Columbia or TriStar). However, three of those five were produced by Carolco and merely distributed by Sony, so I'm unsure if Sony holds any rights. (The Carolco assets, I believe, have switched hands a number of times. Carolco >>>> LIVE >>>> Artisan >>>> Lions Gate >>>> Lionsgate.) And I believe only one of the Sony titles was in CDS on 70mm.

Good luck booking any of these!

DAYS OF THUNDER (1990, Paramount, 70mm)
DICK TRACY (1990, Buena Vista, 70mm)
THE DOORS (1991, Sony, 35mm)
EDWARD SCISSORHANDS (1990, Fox, 35mm, 70mm)
FINAL APPROACH (1991, Trimark, 35mm)
FLATLINERS (1990, Sony, 35mm)
FOR THE BOYS (1991, Fox, 35mm?, 70mm?)
HUDSON HAWK (1991, Sony, 35mm)
TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY (1991, Sony, 35mm, 70mm)
UNIVERSAL SOLDIER (1992, Sony, 35mm)

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Brad Miller
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According to a Paramount rep a few years back, they junked all CDS Days of Thunder prints. They do have a very nice 70mm mag print of that title in the Dallas depot though. I've ran it.

Technicolor holds print #6 to Terminator II in CDS. It is in near mint condition, but does have some splices in it.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Remember the CDS prints have no backup track; if you book one, get a 35mm backup print in case the cds lets you down. Louis

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Robert Minichino
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Yeah, if I went through with it I'd probably interlock the 35mm print to it and at least switch the sound over if the CDS failed. I need my head examined.

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Brad Miller
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Don't forget Robert, those are all used prints (and I'll bet Michael Coate can tell us if any ran changeover playdates). Even if there WERE prints that were ran on changeover, there is no guarantee that they were not built to large reels. So either way the odds are that all of the CDS print's leaders have been cut and are probably missing frames.) As such you would have to run a frame count on every reel and every splice you happen across to "conform" the 35mm print, possibly even having to insert black footage. That's an awful lot of trouble!

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Louis Bornwasser
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back in the day......cds makes the case for analog!!!! Louis

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