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Chris Slycord
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And I noticed it the first time. Perhaps you missed that I was responding to the "look for the color change" comment.

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Bill Gabel
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 - posted 09-24-2008 01:43 PM      Profile for Bill Gabel   Email Bill Gabel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Mike Croaro
Does anyone still use the old splicer unites that use the pre-punched tape?
Yes, I have been using the Rivas style splicer in all my booths over the years. [thumbsup]
And you get more mileage from the tape too.

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Carey Barber
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 - posted 09-24-2008 01:55 PM      Profile for Carey Barber   Email Carey Barber   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
The reels when looked at are slightly different colors.
What causes this exactly?

It is certainly convenient, and I have always been curious as to why each reel would have a slightly different look to it.

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Richard Fowler
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Hollywood (HFC) splicers for pre-perforated tape was an odd splicer which you "rolled" over the splice point as the machine placed a tape and cut it....it was a great concept but a nightmare in operation...

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Monte L Fullmer
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True, I've been seeing a bunch of prints come in with "reel fill" lines either marked with a marker(and crazy with the marker at times..) or with masking tape stuck to the sides of the reel flanges... I just yank them off since most of the time, these lines don't match the roll.

..and it's rather interesting how artistic some operators can get when they do the "reel fill" markings - some make it simple to quite an elaborate way of doing those "fill lines".

Only time I do a mark is on the leader itself reminding me if I have a short, 10 mins or less, reel so I be prepared for a short reel on breakdown.

quote: Mike Blakesley
they're rare enough in most cases that there's no need for any kinds of marks on the tape.

...not over here in this part of the country. You oughta see the chaos in some of the rolls of film per each print that I get...major "ring city" at times with it laying there on the platter.

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Carey Barber
What causes this exactly?

It is certainly convenient, and I have always been curious as to why each reel would have a slightly different look to it.

AFAIK, it's just that each roll of stock used is given a different color on the edge and they try to stagger the colors to help people building the movies.

Of course, I could be wrong and it's something else.

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Carey Barber
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Thanks, Chris.

I have also noticed that on some prints the differences between the reels are a lot more noticeable than on other prints.

So I am not guilty of remaining off-topic...I prefer the Neumade, although I did not have any problems with a batch of Jack Roe I had once.

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Charles Greenlee
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I just thought it was just slight variations in film texture from different film stocks.

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Chris Slycord
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Unless we have a different understanding of what "texture" means, texture wouldn't affect color.

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Jim Cassedy
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quote: Mike Croaro
Does anyone still use the old splicer unites that use the pre-punched tape?
I've got one of these and use it as my "personal" splicer.

Being as how these were usually used in editing, they are very fast once you learn the proper technique.

The perforated tape can be tricky to find and quite expensive to buy, but I bought a sh_tload of both clear and white rolls of tape for almost nothing on E-bay last year.

The tape is slightly out of date, and except for a few inches at the begining of one roll, so far I haven't had a problem with any of it.

I love this thing! I got it on e-bay about a year ago for only $25,
and it was NIB!
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These splicers and rolls of tape show up regularly on e-bay.

-->and before you guys start giving me grief- - the YELLOW tape
roll was put on here for photographic purposes since it stood
out against the red background(my shirt!) better than a roll
of clear tape.<

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Chris Slycord
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Liar [Razz]

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Brad Miller
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Hmmmm, why would he even have a roll of yellow tape in his possession? Hmmmmmmmmm. [Razz]

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Joe Redifer
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Yeah... and it won't even work with that splicer! Must be some kind of fetish.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Yep, the RIVAS splicer..MANN Theatres had them all over in their booths using white prepunched tape in the late 70's to early 80's, while the Guillitoine CIR splicer was the common at that time to have in the booth.

I actually didn't mind the RIVAS due to the tape was so strong and really held the film together. Yet, the tape was easy to take off the film when breaking down. Plus, the center knife could cut through both ends of the film so you can have a clean butt cut of each film.

But, I liked my Guillitoine better, until the Neutapers came online. Then it was a toss-up between the two of which I liked

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Jon Miller
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quote: Joe Redifer
And for the third or fourth time, that's why you mark how full each reel is.
...unless you mainly deal with prints on cores (or in some cases, no cores at all [Mad] ), in which case there are no reels to mark.

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