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Richard May
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Floral Park, NY USA
Registered: Aug 2004


 - posted 04-18-2010 12:08 PM      Profile for Richard May   Email Richard May   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
He did use pink noise and an RTA. He did EQ the stage and surround speakers with the correct curve. I know it's a bad idea to remove the sub.

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Ian Parfrey
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From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E
Registered: Feb 2009


 - posted 04-18-2010 04:11 PM      Profile for Ian Parfrey   Email Ian Parfrey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It sounds like this guy just used basic "feedback reduction" techniques, which as stated before, works well for live and stage sound but will suck the life out of cinema soundtracks producing flat and lifeless sound in the auditorium.

Overall, not an ideal solution from your perspective.

Do you run digital soundtracks?

If so, it may be an idea to just re eq the system and default to analogue.
This will pull back the dynamic range and "possibly" satisfy the witch who's complaining.
As you mention, art-house films don't rely on explosive audio- but to eq the system as you have described really has little place in a quality cinema.

Best of luck

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Richard May
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 - posted 04-18-2010 04:46 PM      Profile for Richard May   Email Richard May   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We don't have digital sound in any screen here. He had gone up to her apartment with an analyser while we had a movie running and checked which frequencies were bleeding through. Then after the EQ, he lowered those frequencies a bit more.

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John Wilson
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 - posted 04-18-2010 05:06 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I feel very sorry for you, Richard...and even sorrier for your patrons who now must endure (perhaps) compressed sound in a cinema.

Yuk.

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Cameron Glendinning
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From: West Ryde, Sydney, NSW Australia
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 - posted 04-18-2010 05:22 PM      Profile for Cameron Glendinning   Email Cameron Glendinning   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Did she put in carpet?

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Richard May
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 - posted 04-18-2010 05:55 PM      Profile for Richard May   Email Richard May   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
No, which I said should have been the first thing to do. The owner is scared of her because of who she is.

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Jeremy Weigel
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 - posted 04-18-2010 06:21 PM      Profile for Jeremy Weigel   Email Jeremy Weigel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I really think he needs to get a pair and take a stand. He could just as easily flip the tables on her by leaking a news report to one or more of the tabloids and shows like TMZ about how difficult she is being and how her complaints are ruining the movie going experience for his patrons.

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John Wilson
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Anyone could do that. (hint)

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Richard May
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[Big Grin]

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Louis Bornwasser
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 - posted 04-18-2010 09:14 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wow! Talk about damage! I'll bet he even CHARGED for this. . . and at an art house yet. Louis

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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 - posted 04-19-2010 07:37 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm with Louis. This is like buying a house near an airport and then complaining about the noise. Assuming that the apartment was not misrepresented as being soundproof, this is her problem and not the theatre's.

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John Walsh
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Don't be to quick to blame the tech .. he might have been told to; "..make it so she never complaints again.."

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John Wilson
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quote: John Walsh
Don't be to quick to blame the tech .. he might have been told to; "..make it so she never complaints again.."
There are other ways to make sure that happens.  -

[Wink]

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Sean McKinnon
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 - posted 04-19-2010 06:42 PM      Profile for Sean McKinnon   Author's Homepage   Email Sean McKinnon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
IMO The tech should have refered them off to an accoustical engineer to make the neccesary structual and sound proofing modifications to allow proper operation of a cinema sound system without disturbing this lady. Of course if the tech had done that then they wouldn't have been able to sell any equipment or bill any labor. [Roll Eyes]

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Richard May
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He actually gave them that option, but the owner wanted the quick fix. Like I said before, I don't think there is any way we could stop all of the leaking. Even if we tried, she would complain about the tiniest noise and the owner doesn't want that. If it were anyone else living up there, there wouldn't be a problem.

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