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Mike Blakesley
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Well I can't say I'm completely accurate, memory-wise, but I can back up Michael when he says Star Wars played at the Rimrock 4. The first run was 27 weeks but then it went into second run and stayed there for another six months or so. I remember reading the article in the Gazette proclaiming it was the first movie in their knowledge to run for a year in Billings.

I don't remember it ever playing at the Babcock, but maybe it played there on a re-release.

I went to lots of movies in the Rimrock 4, Cine 3/4/7 and Fox back in the day, but I only ever went to one movie (Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom) at the Babcock.

That article about the Rimrock 4 does get some things wrong. Obviously "1,000" square feet must be a typo (10,000 is probably more correct) and the manager was "Lanny" Wagner, not Larry as the article states. So there is something to be said for actual memory vs print.

One thing for sure though, disaster or not, the Rimrock 4 was definitely there longer than 1981. It was expanded to five screens and ran until the mid/late '90s when the Carmike Wynnsong 10 was built next to the mall. I think it opened about the time Star Wars Episode I came out.

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System Notices
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It has been 1846 days since the last post.


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Michael Coate
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quote: Steve Matz
But if you would like to wager a real bet (say 5000 Dollars) I will produce what I have said all along about SW's playing at the Babcock.
I should've taken you up on the bet!

Here is what is perhaps the root of your (mistaken) recollection:

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Billings Gazette, May 26th 1983

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Billings Gazette, May 25th 1983

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Billings Gazette, May 25th 1983

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Thomas Hauerslev
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"Out of Africa" ran 9 months, three times a day in Copenhagen. About 800 7OMM screenings on lovely DP70s. No big deal. The print is still in very good condition.

All DP70s were hand built / assembled. Real Dutch craftmanship.

"South pacific" ran 4 years 1958 - 1962, and wore out two Todd-AO prints according to the legend from those days.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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A friend in Great Britain ran Sound Of Music on DP-70's for four years straight. That is a record for run time on a single print far as I know....

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Marcel Birgelen
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The development of the DP70 is a pretty interesting story in itself. It was essentially developed by a single man, Jan-Jacob Kotte, who was obsessed with projection and film from an early age. He got a free card from Phillips to work from home, pretty unconventional back in the day and he spent about a year on his attic designing every element of the machine.

I think it's a great example of what engineering driven design can yield, compared to the often almost entirely cost-driven approach of today.

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Steve Guttag
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I don't know if he designed "everything" on it since the optical sound looks strikingly like the FP56 optical sound.

I'm sure the cost of it was a large reason for its discontinuation. It had a relatively short production run for projectors of that era. Certainly, nobody thought the DP75 was remotely up to the DP70 standards but I'm sure it was less costly to make.

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Marcel Birgelen
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He certainly didn't design every last screw, but according to lore, he was also one of the primary Optical Sound guys at Philips and was at least heavily involved with the FP series. He started to work at Philips in 1928, apparently at the division that was tasked to bring "synchronized sound to film", which was still a pretty big thing back then.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Jan Kotte actually DID design everything on it. Some of it was just adapted from other projectors (FP-56, FP-7) that HE also designed. I do remember reading on IN70mm.com that he actually came home and designed the DP-70 in his attic office. He had a deadline to build some working prototypes and could concentrate best at home.

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Emiel De Jong
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The Oscar Jan Kotte had at home was on display last year when we celebrated the 55th anniversary of the DP70 Oscar:
https://in70mm.com/news/2018/dp70_1656/uk/index.htm

As if it was the plot of one of the original Adventures of Tintin that day the frontpage of the local paper was hijacked by another ex-Philips man presenting from his shopping bag what he claimed as being the original Oscar:
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Mark Gulbrandsen
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The problem with 35/70 XL's was the teeny intermittent and non driven penthouse. Not to mention it was really a 35/65 projector. But with care the prints could last on them.

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Thomas Hauerslev
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https://in70mm.com/newsletter/2000/62/philips/index.htm

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Thomas Hauerslev
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@Emil, that is Mr Nijsen, who wrote most of all press copy for Philips's cinema products. Mr. Nijsen was present at the Oscars in 1963, and Anton Kotte's OSCAR is the extra copy made for Jan Kotte.

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Emiel De Jong
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Thanks Thomas; I know who he is... the sad thing was that the son of Jan Kotte had put a lot of effort in making this small exposition happen in the Philips museum and then on opening day the frontpage of the local paper is the story of Mr. Nijsen sort of ridiculing these efforts. Of course, this could have been more the newspaper wanting to print a juicy story than Mr. Nijsen necessarily being evil. Anyway it would have been much better if before all this Mr. Nijsen and Mr. Kotte had met (like in your photograph...) and had decided to put both Oscar statues on display. Both are "real" in the sense they are both official statues, of course only one of them was there during the ceremony...

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Thomas Hauerslev
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For Emil: https://in70mm.com/news/2018/dp70_1656/uk/index.htm

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