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Author Topic: Tarantino Gets 50 70mm Projectors For The Hateful Eight Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 08-18-2015 11:21 PM                     Correction above: I was thinking on Samsung's 1Zb SSD Drive that they came out, which this $8K drive is the Enterprise drive, and got it mixed up with this above 16T drive. Apologies -Monte  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-18-2015 11:56 PM                     I wonder how many people click on this thread expecting a discussion about film.  |  IP: Logged Amanda Mundin Expert Film Handler Posts: 122 From: Belper, Derbyshire, UK Registered: Sep 2005 posted 08-19-2015 10:02 AM                     So how many theatres, if any, are going to be showing Hateful Eight on a larger 2.76:1 screen, i.e. larger than their normal 2.39 image, rather than making the screen smaller to fit the 2.76 ratio?  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-19-2015 10:20 AM                        The only houses that could show UP70 covering a larger surface area of screen than any other ratio would be ones with a screen and masking specifically designed for UP70 (in other words, with an area left and right that is kept masked when showing 2.36). I don't know of any such houses still in existence. In most cases, the screen itself will be optimized for 2.36, and you could only go wider than that by letterboxing. Our biggest screen (at the Egyptian) is unusual in that it was designed with "legacy" ratios in mind from the outset, and so the ratio that uses the largest part of its surface area is 2.2:1 5/70. This is obtained by opening all four masking bars all the way. 1.33 (35mm full-gate) and 1.37 also use the full height of the screen. But even we can't show UP70 with a larger image than regular 'scope: for UP70, we have to open the side (vertical) bars all the way, and then adjust the horizontal ones to mask the image. The result is 2.39 minus a letterbox.  |  IP: Logged Brian D. Whitish Expert Film Handler Posts: 103 From: Seattle, WA, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-19-2015 01:53 PM                     If they use the curved screen at Seattle Cinerama they could do it. I think they will be running Star Wars. How about Cinerama Dome in LA?  |  IP: Logged Stephan Shelley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 854 From: castro valley, CA, usa Registered: Nov 2014 posted 08-19-2015 08:21 PM                     Cinerama Dome can run UP70. Saw Mad Mad Mad World there a few years back and they showed it with a UP lens. I expect that the UP70 image is wider than the normal scope.  |  IP: Logged Mark Ogden Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 943 From: Little Falls, N.J. Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-19-2015 08:41 PM                     Did ArcLight ever settle with I.A.T.S.E. #33? I'd only love to see them try to open this thing in the Dome while some of the best guys in the business are out on Sunset Blvd. with picket signs.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-20-2015 11:35 AM                        More news from my contact: apparently the list of 50 venues has not yet been finalized, and BLSI is worried about running out of places to store the gear that they've refurbed and prepared for installation. This is cutting it really fine. I don't know how many installation teams they're going to deploy when the time comes, but for argument's sake let's say two, and it takes a week per venue (travel to and from, the install and testing, allowing a day or two for unforeseen issues, etc.). That already means February-March before they're done, even if they started right now. There's no mention of it in the Telluride program, so it looks like that premiere isn't going to happen, either. If I had to guess, I'd guess that the "50 5/70" release will need at least 3-6 months to make happen after the movie has actually been finished (to the point of an approved answer print), which in turn leads to the guess that we're going to see this pushed back well into next spring.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-20-2015 12:00 PM                     If the bookings are able to be finalized, they could possibly ship out the systems and let them sit in the theaters waiting to be installed to help clear storage space. The only problem with this issue is one of shipping damage not being immediately reported. Surely they will have more than 2 install teams. The concern though is if they will truly give proper time to handle each install like you wrote. None of these installs will be straightforward, as it isn't like a new building. Everything from a second port window to new low voltage and high voltage wiring will have to be dealt with. Even if exhaust is split with dampers, that takes time. If the installs are rushed, then the quality just won't be there. Likewise if they were to subcontract out additional crews that don't have solid 70mm install experience, the quality will suffer. But it sounds like they have the time if the film isn't going to be completed for Christmas day anyway and delaying the opening would however be the best possible thing for Tarantino's vision.  |  IP: Logged Paul H. Rayton Expert Film Handler Posts: 210 From: Los Angeles, CA , USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 08-20-2015 12:27 PM                    There will be a lot of rather unhappy people, with associated wringing of hands, if they don't make the December release date, at least somehow. It's called "Academy Awards Qualification", and if QT and/or The Weinstein Co. think they need a boost from such consideration, they're going to HAVE to make that December release date, or just abandon pretty much any hope of awards attention to help sell the picture to those who may not be attracted to the movie by some hype about a wider-than-normal picture size.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-20-2015 12:34 PM                        They only need to get it into one screen for a week to qualify. Maybe they will go full retro and bring back the Road Show. That way, all 50 theatres don't need to be up and ready at once.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-20-2015 01:23 PM                     Even though it has been a tradition in recent decades to release Oscar™-caliber movies in November or December, it's not really necessary. There are plenty of Best Picture Oscar™ winners that weren't released in the late Fall or holiday season. If any teams need extra time to get this film completed as well as possible in post production and shown as well as possible in theaters then it's really critical to allow the extra time. If the new 70mm installations are done well they could be used again for other movie releases. There's maybe a couple future 70mm movie possibilities in the works now. Plus, since certain d-cinema camera models are vastly outpacing the max of 4K projectors, 70mm prints are an alternative to show off that extra resolution.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-20-2015 01:32 PM                        quote: Martin McCaffery They only need to get it into one screen for a week to qualify... In the greater LA area, if I remember the rule correctly. If they'd be looking for a venue ready to go with 5/70, that basically means us (Egyptian or Aero), the Billy Wilder, the Linwood Dunn or the Arclight. I wouldn't have thought UCLA would be interested (and the seating capacity of the Wilder isn't that big, from what I remember, anyway), the Dunn is an Academy-owned theatre, which I'm guessing rules it out for a qualification run, and as has been pointed out, the Arclight is in the midst of a, erm, "little local difficulty". I guess those of us at the Cinematheque had probably better not arrange any big Christmas family gatherings, then! Hopefully it'll do better business than The Interview last Christmas, even though it's even less of a festive-themed show.  |  IP: Logged Paul H. Rayton Expert Film Handler Posts: 210 From: Los Angeles, CA , USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 08-20-2015 01:53 PM                    A few other considerations that pertain: the run has to be in a commercial cinema, and one that runs EVERY DAY. On the other hand, a run can be from most any kind of "professional" format, so he/they would need to finalize the cut, and render a DCP from that, which would run for the critical one week somewhere in Los Angeles County. It could be any kind of a location, but the aforementioned retrospective and museum locations are simply not commercial operations, and it won't fly. Quentin could, however, pull it off at his very own little playhouse, the New Beverly -- except there it would have to be 35mm, since they don't believe in DCPs there. Or they can do a hurry-up install of 70mm equipment in there...  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 08-20-2015 01:54 PM                        From what I get from unspoken comments, it is easy to "drop a console" and wire it in. Same for the platter. The digital model shows what can be done in a few hours. If I were in charge, I would then follow with a picture only crew that would oil up the projector, align the film path, file the plate and then send a sound tech later. Optimistically 1 day plus travel each could make you operational. In the 35mm days, I prefabbed the consoles, dropped 7 in place, wired all afternoon, and then had usable picture by noon the next day. 3 man crew then filed plates. 3 men, 2 days: picture and film alignment was finished. I went back the next day alone and connected and tuned the sound. (A chains were prefabricated.) Think in terms of 3 individuals on a circuit. Heavy lifting, as always, to be done by the theatre or contract movers. Yes, I know about travel time, but 3-4 per week per crew is not unreasonable. We know that from digital installs.  |  IP: Logged

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