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Author Topic: Tarantino Gets 50 70mm Projectors For The Hateful Eight Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-20-2015 02:15 PM                        quote: Paul Rayton A few other considerations that pertain: the run has to be in a commercial cinema... ...which suggests that if the qualifying run is to be on 70mm and in a venue that already has that capability, it would have to be the Arclight. Ourselves and UCLA are both 501(c) nonprofits and don't show movies everyday, and therefore are disqualified on two counts. I'd have thought that they would want the qualifying run to be on 5/70 if they try to do one before the deadline, to give the movie the best chance of actually getting some nominations (surely Bob Richardon will be aiming for a best cinematography nomination for this show, at the very least?). And from what I gather, rendering a DCP won't be as easy as just starting up DCP-o-Matic and walking away for a couple of days. They're doing the entire post old school and using film rushes, Moviolas, optical effects and retro style negative cutting, aren't they? If so, they'll need to make a low-contrast, fine grain positive once the show is locked and then scan it, the cost and time of which would act as a disincentive for producing a rough cut/work-in-progress DCP version to get in under the wire.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-20-2015 04:28 PM                     I would bet the production has already at least been doing film scans, just so screener DVDs and Blu-ray discs can be provided to certain "VIP" types who are too good to soil themselves by watching a movie with commoners in a commercial theater. And then Popcorn Time could possibly be streaming the show online before its theatrical premiere. Back to Oscar qualification, is it necessary for a movie to play theatrically in the Los Angeles area? What about theaters in New York City? Plenty of Academy members live there. There's lots of movie industry activity around Atlanta, Santa Fe, New Orleans and even some between Dallas and Austin. It might be difficult to get a 70mm booking of The Hateful Eight arranged in Los Angeles in late December. A 70mm engagement might be easier to set up in at least one or more of the alternative cities I mentioned.  |  IP: Logged Mike Spaeth Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1129 From: Marietta, GA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-20-2015 05:09 PM                        Oscar qualification is bi-coastal. 1 week in Manhattan and 1 week in Los Angeles county. A dollar theatre I booked in Norwalk, CA ran the qualifier for Sony Classics for "Inside Job" in 2010, so them dumping it somewhere off the beaten path and doing limited promotion would not be unheard of just to qualify.  |  IP: Logged Mark Ogden Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 943 From: Little Falls, N.J. Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-20-2015 05:19 PM                     quote: Leo Enticknap ...which suggests that if the qualifying run is to be on 70mm and in a venue that already has that capability, it would have to be the Arclight. What about the Village, Bruin, Chinese, or Rave/Cinemark 18? Pretty sure at least the first two still have DP70s/AA-2s. Also, more that just the Dome have Kinoton 35/70 machines at the ArcLight. They were showing Inherent Vice in 70mm there in January on a screen in the main building.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 08-20-2015 07:04 PM                     quote: Leo Enticknap There's no mention of it in the Telluride program, so it looks like that premiere isn't going to happen, either. Telluride doesn't typically release it's program until the day before the festival opens. (Unless you are privy to some inside info!) . . and just as an aside, every movie that's won the "Best Picture" Oscar for the past 7 years have either premiered or had their first North American screening at Telluride.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-20-2015 07:45 PM                        I was looking at the program on their website. If that's only provisional until the day before the opening, then I guess they could add this movie. As for other LA theatres, I'm told that the Chinese no longer has any film projection capability - it was removed to make way for the laser lamphouse stuff. Don't know about the others.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 08-20-2015 08:00 PM                     Leo- D'oh! Taka 2nd look. That's LAST year's program. In fact I remember running many of those shows. This will be my 9th year working Telluride. I just started packing for the trip.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 08-20-2015 10:10 PM                        We just received one-sheets today for Hateful Eight. I'm a little irritated the say "Panavision Ultra 70" (or how ever you read it). There's nothing wrong with advertising it as such in venues where it will be playing that way. But I think it's wrong to plaster that all over the posters going out to every theatre when the vast majority won't be playing it in that format. Especially since the posted doesn't say "in Select Theatres" or something to that extent. It's like he's setting up theatres to be called out for an inferior presentation - or letting customers know right off the bat that they will be getting something less.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-21-2015 12:54 AM                     I thought pretty much every poster put logos on them. I don't really pay attention to posters in great detail, but do they always say "in select theaters" or "see it in LiEMAX"?  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 08-21-2015 01:32 AM                     About the question of Oscar qualification runs, all a film needs to do is play in a Los Angeles County theatre for a consecutive 7-day run that can BEGIN by midnight of December 31st (the reason so many movies felt they had to open by Dec 25 was because the Golden Globes required the 7 day run be completed by the end of the year). No New York run is required; however, as Bobby pointed out, a lot of Academy members reside in NY, so it is for their benefit that a lot of Oscar runs open. See rules 2 AND 3: http://www.oscars.org/sites/default/files/88aa_rules.pdf  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 08-21-2015 01:51 AM                        Brad, there are a wide variety of ways IMAX is handled. But usually it will say something like "In theatres and IMAX". Also, IMAX is usually just a logo and/or tagline at the bottom of the poster - under the credit block. But in most cases it's obvious that IMAX is not the only format.  |  IP: Logged Geoff Jones Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 579 From: Broomfield, CO, USA Registered: Feb 2006 posted 08-21-2015 08:15 AM                        As someone who loves movies, I think it's great that he's shooting and releasing his film in a superior, high resolution format rather than a pixel-y, mushy-looking 2k format that is really only watchable on a <20' wide screen. If it doesn't play in Colorado, I'll try to travel out of town to see it. And I think it's great that he's letting moviegoers know about it.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-21-2015 10:35 AM                        Presumably, the poster is using "Ultra Panavision 70" to indicate the production process (Panavision 1.25x anamorphic lenses used on a Panavision 65mm camera). Sort of like how "Filmed with Panavision Cameras and Lenses" or "Arri" is commonly seen in credits and sometimes posters. I believe that Panavision requires this and Arri probably gives some sort of rental discount or other benefit to productions that use their logo. In any case, posters have a history of listing logos for various formats. Lots of posters have the "Dolby Digital," "DTS," and "SDDS" logos on them, even though, obviously, only one of those systems could actually be used at a time for a given screening (and cinemas without digital sound would not be using any of them). Isn't there a logo (SDDS?) that actually says "verify theatre format" on it?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-21-2015 10:52 AM                     Panavision contractually requires their logo on any and all materials associated with the actual release of a film shot with their cameras and or lenses. Mark  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-21-2015 04:11 PM                        Not an issue here, given that he actually wants to advertise the process. quote: Jim Cassedy Leo- D'oh! Taka 2nd look. That's LAST year's program. In fact I remember running many of those shows. You do have to take a second look. I arrived there on Googling and then clicking the "Click here to see the 41st program" banner on the top result link. If I were the editor of that website, I'd make it much easier to see that this is the 2014 program, i.e. not what anyone showing up at the end of this month is going to see.  |  IP: Logged

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