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James Westbrook
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From: Lubbock, Texas, Usa
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted 03-30-2018 08:46 PM
Another example of newspaper advertising being misleading...
In 1987 I was dragged into a Commonwealth theater in Midwest City Oklahoma (it was a 5 screen) to see Roxanne, the Steve Martin movie. Another relative and I wanted to see Spaceballs in the same building but got voted down, hence me being dragged into the theater, so to speak.
The directory ad mentioned all auditoriums were Dolby Stereo.
Not Ultra Stereo. Not Kentec. Dolby.
The movie starts. All content, except an occasional surround burst, was from the front center stage speaker. Mono with surrounds.
A couple years later, after UA acquired Commonwealth, I asked an engineer from the Tulsa area about that theater. "They advertised all Dolby because they were using CP-50s but they were set up for center/surround. But technically, they were Dolby."
Not my definition of Stereo, but...even UA did that with the Kentec equipped theaters. "In Stereo."
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Michael Coate
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From: Los Angeles, California
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posted 05-04-2018 02:34 AM
Give me a break, Sam. The amount of disdain and contempt you have for me and my work is sickening. Why shouldn’t Kutler be held accountable? Kutler said he found several errors (i.e. five or more), but I’m going to gamble and say that he didn’t find any and that he’s just jumping on your “Let’s discredit Mike” train. I mean, if he found some mistakes, great, but he should cite them (and, preferably, post them in the appropriate thread). It’s unfair to me and any interested readers for him to throw out unsubstantiated claims. And they need to be legit errors and not issues with stylization or gray area details or personal recollections/details culled from memory that conflict with published materials or documentation.
quote: Louis Bornwasser
Louisville back then routinely followed the nation in setting playdates.
Louisville in 1950, according to the U.S. census records, ranked #30.
Louisville in 1960, according to the U.S. census records, ranked #31.
Louisville was the 16th U.S. city in which “Oklahoma!” opened.
Louisville was the 26th U.S. city in which “Around the World in 80 Days” opened.
Louisville was the 1st U.S. city in which “Raintree County” opened.
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Will Kutler
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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 05-05-2018 12:10 PM
I was attempting to edit my previous post, but the system will not permit it.
Hi Sam and Bob!
Just a note of thanks for your posts!!
Michael...you stated that the Buena Vista was located between Broadway and Speedway....no!
Technically, the El Dorado was between Wilmont and Craycroft. Actually, it was closer to the intersection of Broadway and Wilmont (north side of Broadway) opposite the eastern side (Sears) of Park Mall. I found a wonderful picture of the theater's exterior: "Star Wars fans scurry across the parking lot at El Dorado Theatre in Tucson to get in line for tickets on August 5, 1977. Photo by Joe Vitti / Arizona Daily Star". I would like Brad's or Administrator's permission to add or post this picture. The auditoriums were similar to that of the Cooper Cinerama.
Benny Osuna, Jr. was the Tucson Local Business Agent who worked the El Dorado and Tucson Fox booths. His Father, Benny Osuna, Sr. worked the Tucson Fox. There is an article (with photo) from the Arizona Daily Star from Monday, August 11, 1941 showing Sr. installing the upgraded Simplex 4-Star sound system. The Tucson Fox was originally designed for Simplex/Fox "Grandeur" presentations. There are a host of articles about this within the archives of the Arizona Daily Star during the theaters construction. However that equipment was never installed. The original installation was U-Bases/Western Electric. I knew Jr. from my involvement with the Fox Restoration. Jr. was also the Projectionist on-hand who allowed me to handle the 70mm print of "Jedi" at the El Dorado when I was given permission to visit the booth as a kid. Jr. has since passed away. Thru the late great Bob Maar, I serviced the El Dorado booth as an independent contractor after it had been rebuilt as that awful 6-plex. That 6-plex was a mix of JJs and XL’s. I suspect that the JJs were from the original theater. I tried (unsuccessfully) to obtain those projectors for preservation as part of Tucson History when the 6-plex closed for good.
Dan Traweek or Tim McClanahan worked the Buena Vista, which was on Wilmont, south of Broadway and next to the Marie Callenders.
Not sure if Dan or Tim are still alive or around. The screens faced east. The north theater was platter, and the south theater was manual change-overs w/X-Ls. Basic automation was installed with “Annie”, and I was in the booth when that automation malfunctioned with one VERY angry Projectionist!
I also knew Fred Zimmerman thru my involvement with the Fox restoration. Fred ran the booth at the Cineworld 4.
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