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Leo Enticknap
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WARNING - PLOT SPOILER AHEAD

I read the plot synopsis, and apparently it's a sort of "what if" the murder of Sharon Tate had been stopped just before it happened.

If that's the case, I'm not sure that I want to go see it, even if perfectly presented from a gorgeous 70mm print in the perfect theater. I love new perspectives and interpretations on historical events, but pretending that one flat out didn't happen ... as a fan of documentaries more than any other movie genre (you're in a darkened room, with your entire attention on the big screen: therefore, if someone wants to present a complicated case to you, that takes time and a lot of information to push through, a theatrical movie is their best chance), I don't think I'd be able to do the disbelief suspending necessary.

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Martin McCaffery
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How'd you feel about Hitler being killed in Inglorius Basterds?

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Paul Finn
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Do the 35mm prints have Datasat digital time code along with the accompanying CD/USB program audio, in addition to the SRD soundtrack?

Thanks, Paul Finn

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Kieran Hall
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There's a photo doing the rounds online posted by the Belcourt Theatre that has the shipping cases newly labelled as "quad track" -- not sure how seriously I'd take this, though!

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Jim Cassedy
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quote: Tyler Purcell
they found distortion and audio issues on the dolby digital soundtrack.
This most likely means, all of the 35mm prints are going to be bad.
I wonder if the theater Terry M mentioned a few posts back, which will be
playing it in straight optical/analog/mono has the same issues?

> I'm not far from that venue. I may go down there today or tomorrow
if I have time & check it out if I have time.

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Sascha F. Roll
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@Paul Finn:
SR and SRD only on the 35mm prints.

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Geoff Jones
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Mark, I hope you are able to get the 70MM equipment fixed in San Francisco. I'm sure that's stressful, but bravo to your crew for testing it first. My brother has tickets to see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Sunday night and is excited for the opportunity.

quote: Mark Louis
Sorry, should have clarified. We are considering 70mm on the PLF in Westminster and 35mm on a smaller screen.
Why would you put 35mm on a smaller screen? Why not install a good dual-format projector in the Big Show auditorium so that you can show both 70MM and 35mm? 35mm is great for classics, and fans already have the ability to watch classics on smaller screens at home. Classics need to be on the Big Show screen. Harkins recently moved some of their Tuesday Night Classics into their giant Cine Capri auditoriums, and they are selling more tickets for these shows than whatever current release would have been in that auditorium at the time. Just think of the $$ you will make.

And why wait? Denver audiences are missing out!

For example, Alamo is showing The Abyss: Special Edition in 35mm in San Francisco next month. It just got announced and they've already sold more tickets than the smaller screens at Westminster. Because The Abyss hasn't been released for home viewing outside of 480i, 35mm is the only way to watch it, outside a decent-looking fan restoration.

Please bring 35mm and 70MM to the Big Show auditorium in Westminster and put more classics in there!

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Geoff Jones
Why not install a good dual-format projector in the Big Show auditorium so that you can show both 70MM and 35mm?
Because finding used, ex-multiplex 35mm only projectors in good condition is still not too much of a problem; but finding dual gauge ones is much more difficult, especially ones that don't need unavailable parts to restore them to reliable working order.

The Hateful Eight release gobbled up a lot of the remaining, viable dual gauge projectors out there, and even of those, some of them don't have the components needed for them to run 35mm.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote:
Please bring 35mm and 70MM to the Big Show auditorium in Westminster and put more classics in there!
Yeah, 70mm really needs to be shown in BIG screens. With The Hateful Eight release it was a shame they couldn't get a lot of truly big screen theaters booked to show the movie. In Oklahoma City that movie would have been a whole lot better on Harkins' big Cine Capri screen in Bricktown rather than where it was actually booked: a smaller, common-width screen auditorium at the AMC Quail Springs Mall 24 theater in the Northern suburbs. I still paid upwards of $20 for a ticket to watch a 2.76:1 ratio movie shown on a HDTV-shaped screen.

I realize the biggest screen houses are very hard to book during certain peak times of year, such as Memorial Day weekend. The latest super hero movie or other big budget sequel/remake is gobbling up all the biggest rooms then. However there are other times of the year movie going falls into the toilet. Early January to Valentines Day is a period where big studios dump their garbage releases into theaters. Most of August and April are terrible times to see movies as well. The August dregs period can sometimes stretch well into September. The April dregs period has historically bled over to Mid May, but Marvel and others have kick-started the summer movie-going season a bit earlier in recent years.

Still, there are key windows where a 70mm revival, 70mm art house release or something unique involving 70mm could get into those big screen houses. Just gotta pick the right time of year to do it. And if the movie is good enough it should capture the big screens during peak times anyway.

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Mike Spaeth
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quote:
And why wait? Denver audiences are missing out!
Jeez...give the guy a break! While he may have a say in the budget process, he most likely has to get any budgets approved. I'm sure he isn't in a position to single-handedly pull the trigger on the install.

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Jim Cassedy
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quote: Paul Finn
Do the 35mm prints have Datasat digital time code
I let myself in to one of the local theaters running it in 35mm and
took a quick look at the print this morning before they opened.
> No DTS. Just SR (cyan) & SRD
> Print was on Kodak 2383 film stock
> Leaders said: "PhotoKem Digital" on them
> They shipped it on on the GOOD plastic reels- not those really
cheap "split reel" type with the non-standard core in the middle.
> - and the reels were shipped in fairly new METAL film shipping cases;
not those horrible hybrid cardboard/plastic things they used for the last decade.
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I'm curious about the cue-mark comment made a few posts back.

>Does anyone know if the film has lab-cues on it?

The theater I was at had their print platterized, & I didn't want to
disturb it to look & see. (And I won't have time to watch a show till Sunday)

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Mark Ogden
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From Indiewire: Big problems at the Arclight Hollywood last night and this morning. 70mm died halfway thru the midnight show, first show this morning digital all the way. Back to full-on 70mm with 3:00 show this afternoon. No other details, but at least one person had a good riposte. Bravo!

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Terry Monohan
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Saw he movie this morning 7/26 at the 11AM (was to be 70mm showing) at the New Mission in San Francisco. As many of you know they have had problems with their 70mm projectors for two days now.
The manager of the Drafthouse New Mission Theatre sent out nice e mails this morning to tell everyone with 70mm tickets that the projectors are waiting for parts and the new 70mm film will be shown on a digital format today.
This is probably the only movie circuit in the USA 'Drafthouse' that lets the ticket buyers know about the 70mm problem today. They gave everyone a rain check and most of us watched the movie in DCP and It looked and sounded great on their large wide scope screen with curtains that work.
We enjoyed all the pre show trailers/shorts that Drafthouse always does a good job with.
Will try to see it in a few days in 70mm film once they get the old 70mm projectors working again and I hope they get some spare parts this time.
Thanks Jim C for the film print can info photos I think you will enjoy the movie either on 35mm,70mm or DCP.
You need to go to work for Drafthouse New Mission Theatre in SF, I bet with you working for them the old 70mm projectors would be working again with your connections for spare parts and pre run test maintenance.
Lets hope they can get the 'Once Upon A Time In Hollywood' 70mm blow up prints working, as It is the only 70mm showing at this time in Northern CA and It has been locked up in the cans since Thursday!

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Mark Louis
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quote: Terry Monohan
Will try to see it in a few days in 70mm film once they get the old 70mm projectors working again and I hope they get some spare parts this time.
Happy to report that as of the 10:50 show last night we are back up and running with 70mm. It took a little longer because I decided to wait until we could find the correct part to prevent the risk of film damage. We discovered that both JJ soundheads had a modified vertical drive shaft that consisted of a zinc die-cast gear coupler assembly that includes a flexible rubber sleeve. One failed completely and the other was not long for this world, so I did not want to replace them with anything but the original Century flexible steel shaft. This obviously is much tougher to find.

Master technician Matt Leach drove to Oakland and back during rush hours to pick up the part, just to get us back on screen last night. Kudo's Matt, you're one of the best!

Concerning Westminster, I'm working to make 70mm there in the Big Show possible so stay tuned.

Concerning LA, after fighting what we thought was a Dolby 700 reader issue for two days, we discovered that the digital dropouts were actually being caused by the print itself. Replacement prints are hard to come by so we have made sure that any temporary default to SR is as seamless as possible.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Bel-Court Theater here in Nashville is running a 35mm print. Doubt I'll bother to go see the soap opera though.

Mark

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