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Author Topic: Carmike installing 2300 Christie/AIX DLP systems Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-18-2007 11:39 AM                     quote: Mike Blakesley And why shouldn't they want to end VPFs? They'll save mega bucks and get off for a fraction of what they should pay. Mike, The studios actually loose either way and with film they loose alot more $$! One method has them paying for some of your system in leiu of you receiving film prints... if no one puts in digital systems then they STILL have to buy lots o film prints... at a much much higher overall cost than digital prints and d-cinema subsidy of some sort. Film prints involve ALOT of shipping and warehousing costs during and after a run on top of the manufacture of prints, I would bet to wager that the warehousing and shipping costs triples the actual manufacturing costs of a given print run. Digital warehousing... if they even bother to do that on a large scale would require but a fraction of the space it takes for film. Those huge Technicolor warehouses with high overhead will become 3-car garage sized buildings. Digital prints cost but 20.00 to ship and because of the straight over copy system for hard drives it actually takes more time to strike the equivelent new film print.... and the drives can be re-cycled/ re-loaded with other digital content in way less time. No environmentally harmful film base recycling is involved with hard drives! Eventual satellite downloading if they ever actually perfect it will further eliminate distribution overhead down to just the uplink location and the KDM people. So think about the big picture in regards to distribution and you'll find that the studios continuing to subsidize in some sort of fashion is very much in their favor... there will be an end to that subsidy at some point down the road when your contract expires. The studios ultimately have two choices... continue to do the subsidization and see an eventual end to it... or continue to strike, store, and ship expensive film prints. Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-18-2007 12:24 PM                     There is an aspect to film in that the costs associaed with it are written off as complete losses within about 2-weeks. VPF can not be written off like that. Studios love to show that despite a film grossing millions actually didn't have any profit...for tax and paying people on NET reasons. Steve  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-18-2007 01:27 PM                     ANY costs distribution pays out associated with any production can be written off one way or another. I'm sure exactly how it is written off will be set up in their best interest. Also with film prints you can't write off the expenses involved after the fact of the initial release in that two week period. There are many on-going film related expenses after a release is finished that can't be gotten around no matter how smart accountants are. Mark  |  IP: Logged Ky Boyd Hey I'm #23 Posts: 314 From: Santa Rosa, CA, USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-18-2007 03:08 PM                       quote: Mike Blakesley I'm amazed that they put 3D in Bozeman and Butte MT, but not in Great Falls. (Much larger town.) Bozeman about 27,000 Butte about 34,000 Great Falls about 57,000 Interestingly, the Carmike 10 in Great Falls was advertising Nightmare Before Christmas in 3-D, but the night I was there they had signs posted that "due to technical difficulties" the film was not playing at all. Looked to me like the "technical difficulty" was the reseating project going on with one room completely stripped of seats. Maybe they stripped the Real 3-D system out at the same time.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-26-2008 07:29 PM                     Quick update for January 2008. As of 1/26/08 Total of 2338 screens in theater chain 2173 Christie/AccessIT systems installed 402 Real D systems installed This time instead of listing all the Carmike locations that are digital equipped, this post will concentrate on the Carmike locations that are not equipped with digital projection as well as those locations that have recently closed or changed ownership. 165 screens in the Carmike chain run 35mm only. Only 7 first run Carmike theater locations (with a total of 45 screens) are still running 35mm exclusively: First Run Locations 45 screens exclusively 35mm Dothan, AL - Circle West 4 Prattville, AL - Promenade 12 Glenwood Springs, CO - Mall 3 Chubbuck, ID - Carmike 7 Dubuque, IA - Cinema Center 8 Beaver Falls, PA - Plaza 6 Du Bois, PA - Cinema Five None of Carmike's remaining 18 discount/2nd run locations are equipped with digital projection: Discount/2nd Run Locations 120 screens exclusively 35mm Birmingham, AL - Carmike 10 Lakeland, FL - Palm Cinema 3 Panama City, FL - Mall 4 Columbus, GA - Peachtree 8 Lexington, KY - Carmike 10 High Point, NC - Carmike 8 Raleigh, NC - Blue Ridge 14 Findlay, OH - Findlay 6 Shawnee, OK - Hornbeck & Penthouse Twin West Mifflin, PA - Maxi Saver 12 Clemson, SC - Astro 3 Rock Hill, SC - Cinema 7 Spartanburg, SC - Wynnsong 7 Clarksville, TN - Carmike 8 Greeneville, TN - Capri Twin Knoxville, TN - Movies 7 Wichita Falls, TX - Century City 6 Cheyenne, WY - Cole Square 3 Carmike has closed a number of theater locations in the last couple of months. Some theaters were even first run locations equipped with digital projection. Recently Closed Florence, AL - Hickory Hills 6 (closed 1/17/2008) Montgomery, AL - Wynnsong 10 - (closed 1/08) formerly 10 DLP screens, 1 RealD screen Moscow, AL - University 4 (closed 1/11/08) Cedar Rapids, IA - Carmike 7 (2nd Run) Alexandria, LA - Alexandria 6, formerly 6 DLP screens, 2 RealD screens Boone, NC - Appalachain 2 (2nd Run) Goldsboro, NC - Berkeley 4 (2nd Run) State College, PA - Cinema 5 (closed 12/20/2007) formerly 5 DLP screens Athens, TN - Plaza 2, formerly 2 DLP screens Crossville, TN - Capri Twin (2nd Run) Recently Sold Ocean City, MD - Sun & Surf 8 (now operated by Fox Theaters) Grand Island, NB - Island Twin (now operated by Dickinson Theatres)  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-29-2008 02:02 PM                     Word has it that Carmike is out of Cole Square 3 when the lease is up. The entire mall is for sale and will eventually come down. Mark  |  IP: Logged Sam Graham AKA: "The Evil Sam Graham". Wackiness ensues. Posts: 1431 From: Waukee, IA Registered: Dec 2004 posted 01-29-2008 08:04 PM                        quote: Mark Gulbrandsen Word has it that Carmike is out of Cole Square 3 when the lease is up. The entire mall is for sale and will eventually come down. Dibs on the sign. sweeeeeeet  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-29-2008 09:14 PM                     Its probably one of the better looking neon signs in Cheyenne bar a few of the old motel neon signs down on Lincolnway.... Mark  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-29-2008 11:16 PM                     quote: Sam Graham Dibs on the sign. They might take you up on that...unless someone else wants to cash in the cabinet for steel and aluminum recycling. It's either going to get chopped up for that or just take up space rusting in a "bone yard" somewhere. It's not a bad sign. Signs featuring exposed neon take more effort to build. They're certainly more eye-catching than the typical rectangular box with vinyl decorated white acrylic faces commonly used (often with badly laid out and distorted type). But Coca-Cola called and would like its script back. The only thing I can knock about that sign is how the green border neon is treated. It has some visible cross-over connections from one green row to the next. Kinda messes up the art deco inspired look. And the lettering is a little crooked in places. But again, it's a lot better than the sorts of signs you normally see bolted to a building. I just hope it's wired to NEC specs and UL listed. Don't need any buildings burning to the ground. Here's a couple examples of exposed border neon similar to the Cole Square sign, but IMHO done a bit better:  |  IP: Logged

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