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Brad Miller
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quote: Jonathan Goeldner
if that's true, then well... Sony lost a ticket sale, I'll just wait and see how it plans out for the bluray / UHD release
The very, very, very few percentage of the population you represent is of no consequence.

Have you never heard the term "acceptable losses"?

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Jonathan Goeldner
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sure ... I'm a consumer, I speak with my wallet - If I want the 3D, then I have no problem waiting; if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, it's not the end of the world.

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Mike Blakesley
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Yeah but what Brad is saying, is that you represent such a small percentage of moviegoers, losing your ticket sale will be no big deal. Besides, if you buy the BluRay they'll still get some of your money anyway.

Since the HFR component isn't being promoted (because, probably, they know it's not going to look as amazing as it should), 99.9% of people won't even know what they're missing going in.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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I don't mind Sony getting my money, but I'm not going to pay twice - the 3D should have been a wide release, relegating it to two theaters is a bone headed move on Sony's part.

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Carsten Kurz
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quote: Steve Guttag
Yep. The only way, for now, to see it in EITHER 3D or HFR is at the two, count them two, theatres....everywhere else, it will be 2D/24.
It seems there are some more HFR presentations scheduled internationally. And Julian Pinn just confirmed on the ISDCF mailing list that there will be 120fps/3D/2k versions for Dolby Cinema.

Jonathan - they did not just relegate the 3D version to two theaters, but they at least made sure that these two play the 120fps/3D/4k version, which no regular cinema can play. So, that makes some sense.

Why they pulled back from a wide HFR release is yet to be answered. They were probably afraid of too many spoiled presentations when they evaluated their testings.

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Sony is certainly jerking the chains of theater exhibitors and it's audience - if there are indeed standard non-HFR 3D presentations, great! but they certainly are not advertising it very well.

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Mike Blakesley
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What I don't see is, why don't they allow exhibitors who have the HFR capability to go ahead and play it that way, if they want to? The whole thing seems sort of Sony-ish.

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quote: Carsten Kurz
And Julian Pinn just confirmed on the ISDCF mailing list that there will be 120fps/3D/2k versions for Dolby Cinema.
YESSS!!! There's my ticket!!

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quote: Jonathan Goeldner
I'll just wait and see how it pans out for the bluray / UHD release
Blu-ray can't even do 1080p at 60p. UHD supports up to 4K 60fps but I don't know if it can do 4K 3D at 60fps. Just watch the halftime show during the next Superbowl if you want 60fps.

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Steve Guttag
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Nope! They, wisely, abandoned 3D in the UHD format.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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quote: Steve Guttag
Nope! They, wisely, abandoned 3D in the UHD format.
... wrong! ...

Sony actually includes the 3D disc in with the UHD editions: "Ghostbusters" and "Angry Birds"

so it's not 3D in 4K, but at least they throw the 3D in as part of the package... 3D ain't dead (yet)

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Steve Guttag
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Are you saying the UHD format now magically supports 3D or are you saying that there are UHD players that will support 3D in a standard Blu-ray? Because, if the the latter, then I was not wrong. I said that the UHD format does not support 3D.

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Leslie Hartmier
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According to the ITU-R specification BT.2020-2, UHD can support 3D, but not in 4K/8K.

In point of fact, 3D at 4K or 8K is specifically not 'permitted' according to the specification set out by the Blu-ray Disc Association.

That said, in 2012 Sony made a prosumer 4K/3D projector (note: it will do UHD 2D or Full HD 3D, not UHD 3D).

Also in 2012, LG made an 84" 4K 3D TV (curiously, released one day before ITU ratified the UHDTV standard), and still does make UHD 4K TVs (yes, actual 4K 3D TVs with 3D content in 4K, but you are limited to tech demos and specially made 4K 3D videos), but according to LG, their new TVs will do 4K 3D with the above mentioned videos, and their 4K 3D Blu-ray players will run EITHER 4K or 3D, which makes sense, since the Blu-ray Disc Association would not otherwise permit the player to be stamped with their certification.

All that said, I'm still saving that image, Brad.

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Here's a bit of info about the theatrical installations being set up for the opening of this show in the new process, courtesy of the Hollywood Reporter: (article )

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November 03, 2016 11:09am PT by Carolyn Giardina - The Hollywood Reporter

Cinerama Dome to Install "The Whole Shebang" for 'Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk'

It will be one of two U.S. theaters that can display Ang Lee’s groundbreaking movie in 4K, 3D at 120 frames per second.

Next week, efforts begin to install cutting-edge projection technology at ArcLight Cinemas’ Cinerama Dome for screenings of Ang Lee’s Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk in an unprecedented 4K, 3D, at 120 frames per second per eye. The film is set to bow at the theater on Nov. 10.

This Sony Pictures production has received wide attention as the first movie to be made in this format, which Lee selected to explore the potential of digital cinema to improve 3D (which he first used on 2012's Life of Pi) and provide a wider range of tools that may be used in the service of storytelling. In the case of Billy Lynn, Lee chose to apply this technology to an emotional drama, based on Ben's Fountain's novel about a soldier who fought in the Iraq War.

To install this unique system at the Dome — the only Los Angeles theater capable of showing the film in this format — ArcLight teamed with projector maker Christie, which will provide two of its Mirage 4K laser projectors (which are not yet used in cinemas). The Dome also will use the Dolby 3D system and 7th Sense media server.

A year ago, the Dome was upgraded with Christie 6P laser projection. “Now, we’ve upped the ante with the addition of the unique Christie Mirage system to be the only West Coast theater to show Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk exactly as Lee shot and cut the film, remaining faithful to his storytelling vision,” ArcLight executive vp Gretchen McCourt said Thursday in a statement.

Only a half-dozen theaters in the world will be capable of displaying the film in this format, and Christie Mirage projectors will be used for all the venues. That includes the AMC Lincoln Square in New York, which hosted the film’s world premiere last month during the New York Film Festival. It also will be offered in Taiwan’s Vieshow Cinemas in Taipei, where the film had its Taiwan premiere on Wednesday. China’s Shanghai Film Group and Bona Film Group will showcase Billy Lynn in the format at the Beijing Bona Youtang International Cineplex and Shanghai Film Art Center, starting on Sunday and Tuesday, respectively.

Multiple versions of Billy Lynn have been carefully created from the master for audiences in traditional cinemas and in various formats including today’s commonly used 24 fps. Dolby Cinema theaters will be offering the film in 2K, 3D at 120 fps with high dynamic range (the format used for last week's Los Angeles press screenings).


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