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Author Topic: Barco Series 4 Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 04-26-2019 04:13 AM                     quote: Tom Bert What is NDI? Real Live IP video (and audio)... and it's royalty free. It's used a lot in live (broadcast) productions nowadays, both as input (from cameras), but also increasingly as an output format. Would be great across the whole Barco line to be able to do NDI directly to any projector. The Wikipedia page with some more specs  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-01-2019 06:08 AM                     Another video on the Series 4 showing off its modularity: https://www.cinionic.com/news/discover-Barco-Series-4-modular-design https://youtu.be/Vq2btUTxaDI  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 05-01-2019 07:14 AM                     More modularity - less chances of these modules to have a 'repair' option from Barco - expensive module swaps instead of actual repairs? - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-01-2019 09:39 AM                     If you go to my.barco you can see the granularity of the parts already. Barco has always been about expensive assemblies instead of cheaper but more parts. Witness what parts on a light-engine are considered "service parts." You can even get cable for it as a service part if it becomes damaged! That said, they did make the laser modules service parts as opposed to big laser assemblies. So the parts that are likely to be changed over time seem to be available as parts.  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 05-02-2019 06:40 PM                     I think that you need to factor in the cost of the SmartCare option into the base price of the product, which should at least give you a 10-year commitment from Barco. This would at least give you similar guarantees for light output compared to Xenon based operations.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-03-2019 12:26 AM                     Barco/Cinionic has also, recently, dramatically reduced the price of their extended warranties too.  |  IP: Logged Ioannis Syrogiannis Expert Film Handler Posts: 147 From: Reykjavík, Iceland Registered: Jun 2005 posted 05-04-2019 05:21 AM                     Today, after finding out that documentation is now available, I was looking for any differences in the bit rates between ICMP and ICMP-X. Strangely enough, I found out that both specs sheets read: JPEG 2000 bit-rates up to 625Mbps I was wondering, in case the statements are correct, what causes the difference in frame rate capacity between the two systems. Apart from that, I would like to point one thing. While I love the platform-agnostic new web-interface communicator, I would have felt more worry-free if there were a program that would allow non-browser-dependent use. Just like the two versions of commander (web and application). Why? Because from one version of a browser to another, one might stumble upon certificate/authentication issues, protocol issues, memory issues, rendering issues and so on. Especially when usage from afar or/and from different systems is encouraged, and not all systems in question work under strict update and upgrade policies, such an adoption on the side of browser developers may cause a great number of users calling for such simple a thing as connecting to the projector. I do agree that, for instance, the web commander is more convenient to use than the commander application. Yet, once or twice, the application saved the day. I tend to believe that a similar usage of an application (or even the good-old communicator, I don't know) would be beneficial.  |  IP: Logged Tom Bert Expert Film Handler Posts: 134 From: Belgium Registered: Apr 2010 posted 05-08-2019 06:52 AM                     quote: Ioannis Syrogiannis I was wondering, in case the statements are correct, what causes the difference in frame rate capacity between the two systems. The ICMP-X framerate capacity/spec is today exactly the same as the "old" ICMP: up to 2K120/4K60. The new framerate (up to 4K120) applies to the projector backplane interface to the engine. Once we upgrade the ICMP-X to also be capable of 4K120, the whole setup will be 4K120-capable. Now the system is "4K120-ready" with the S4 projector 4K120-capable, but the ICMP-X not (yet)  |  IP: Logged Tom Bert Expert Film Handler Posts: 134 From: Belgium Registered: Apr 2010 posted 05-10-2019 01:36 AM                     On May 22nd, we'll be hosting two webinars to demonstrate the new software in Series 4: Web Communicator (install, configure, callibrate,...) and Web Analyzer (log file reading, root cause finding,...). The 2 webinars will cover the same topic(s), just aimed at different timezones. session 1: May 22 – 9 a.m. CET / 3 p.m. HKT: https://go.cinionic.com/e/639321/registration-webinar-session1/3vbscl/1044062887?h=R1qDobS46JR_7D-eqH937HkuPuYBn5R7lWH UlcPW1E0 session 2: May 22 – 6 p.m. CET / 9 a.m. PDT: https://go.cinionic.com/e/639321/registration-webinar-session2/3vbscn/1044062887?h=R1qDobS46JR_7D-eqH937HkuPuYBn5R7lWH UlcPW1E0 (I copied the link for the invite email I got: if you click, don't forget to replace my name by yours )  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 05-10-2019 05:53 AM                     quote: Tom Bert 4K120-ready You really need a better term and logo for that. UHFRD-Ready maybe?  |  IP: Logged Tom Bert Expert Film Handler Posts: 134 From: Belgium Registered: Apr 2010 posted 06-27-2019 07:30 AM                     I am glad to inform you that the validation of the 4TB SSD drives on ICMP-X has been finalized. Practical: - This means that you can use these drives, without voiding warranty. The use of any non-validated drives (like before) is not allowed and damages will not be covered under warranty when we see use of such non-approved drives in the logs. - The drive model is 4TB: Seagate SSD (order code: XA3840ME10063). You configure them like the existing drives: in RAID5 to achieve 8TB net available - This model be will added to the installation manual as an approved disk (the 1TB and 2TB models are already in there) - We will NOT resell these drives from Barco; you can go and buy these directly in your local or online “storage shop”. - Support on ICMP-X is immediate. Support on ICMP can be enabled by installing the new RAID kit (R9801854) and upgrading to SW version 1.4.2 (or higher); both will be possible by end-of-year  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-27-2019 11:21 AM                     Very good!  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 06-27-2019 04:50 PM                     what is the RAID kit made of?  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 06-27-2019 05:20 PM                        That is welcome news. The previous capacity limitation imposed by 3 x 2TB drives effectively made the Alchemy unusable for arthouse venues, festivals, and other situations in which no TMS is available (or it is, but the time taken to transfer content over the wire is problematic), but more than 3.7TB or so of content needed to be readily available. With the trend toward higher bitrate DCP pushing the size of a typical feature north of 150GB, this problem was only going to get worse.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-27-2019 09:16 PM                     I would say that the 4TB storage was sufficient for a typical "Art House" but not for a festival where there can never be enough storage! Now if they could only work on reliability of the ICMP. It has some really cool features, some questionable ones and probably the fastest to learn of the UIs out there of "current" servers but I need equipment I can depend on and I'm a bit spooked on the ICMP having had several issues with them including multiple replacements at a single venue and the odd errors that can show up with them. I really hoped it would be more reliable because I like that you don't have to shut it down (just like the good old servers) and that things like "HDMI" are so well integrated into the architecture of the projector that you just press a preset and everything just works.  |  IP: Logged

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