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Stephan Shelley
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 - posted 07-10-2019 08:33 PM      Profile for Stephan Shelley   Email Stephan Shelley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mike, I am guessing you are no longer running any film. One thing the Ovation will not do on its own is film but you can daisy chain a legacy processor into it.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Nope, We moved his projector to behind the baffle wall after conversion 8 years ago... In fact out of 334 conversions I did on the Mountain States only two film projectors were left in place and neither has been used in 5+ years.

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Mike Blakesley
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Well we DID leave the film projector in place for about 3 or 4 years but we never did use it, so we finally got it out of the booth to make some storage space. (Anybody want it?)

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Tim Androes
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what kind of equipment?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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It's a Simplex X-L on a 5 Star mounted to a Christie console with every upgrade known to man. I do not remember the lens sizes. There is also a Christie AW-3 and MUT.
You can see pictures of it on the Roxy Theater web page below...

Derelict Projector needing a New Home

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Pete Naples
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Geoff,

It's now my 'goto' processor, especially when bi/tri/quad amplifying.

Installed lots of them, every one has been well received. A couple of really acoustically challenging rooms have been tamed where everything in the past failed.

My most recent install which was an OV2, one of those challenging rooms, an ancient cinema from the silent era (it would make an excellent cathedral).

The owner said "I can't believe the sound, worth every penny"

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Geoff Halls
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After successful trial we are installing two more Trinnov Ovation-2 along with speaker and amplifier upgrades from Krix Speakers. Can anyone suggest a good monitoring option to suit a tri amplifer system with the Ovation.

Currently using CP650 with QSC DCM-3 VGA cable to amps. This was a nice easy install. Looks like I will have to now tap off from all the amp outputs!!

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Sean McKinnon
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FYI- even though they use the same connector the QSC dataport cables are not VGA cables. While VGA cables may work the shielding is different and they are made to carry 15 volts so using an off the shelf VGA cable IMO is risky.

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Steve Guttag
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As I recall, Dataport cables also use pin 9, which VGA cables typically don't. It's been awhile since I looked at/made a Dataport cable.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Mike has the ONLY CP-650 that I installed which has not lost it's power supply. IDK why it has not because his booth some times gets pretty toasty and every other CP650's power supply I ever installed failed within about 7 years of use. His 650 is also the only Dolbly I kept in place during Digital installs. Almost everything else got Ultra Stereo JSD-100 and later on some JSD-60. We did keep the Panastereos.

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Khushwant Singh
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Hi we are going to deploy in next week will share our input , very excited

regards

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Steve Guttag
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Yes, pin 9 = +15V. It isn't crucial for this wire to exist in a dataport cable as I don't think that pin is used for anything but the dataport accessories like the XC-3 and SF-3 (The XC-3 was just discontinued, btw).

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Mike B. just switched his CP-650 out for a Trinnov processor and I know he's really happy with it. Hopefully he'll chime in and relate some of the differences between it and the 650.

Mark

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Khushwant Singh
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Dear All

We have recently deployed the first Trinnov Ovtion 2 in India.

The performance is mind blowing ..... AMAZED... not only listening , we can also see the sound travelling across the auditorium.
This sound processor has no barrier, irrespective the content is 5.1 or 7.1 the output is Marvelous.....
One should experience the difference if he true sound lover.......Amazing

Thanks and regards

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Brad Miller
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quote: Khushwant Singh
we can also see the sound travelling across the auditorium
Sounds like you should shoot a video of this amazing phenomenon.

For people who are issuing comparisons, you REALLY NEED TO add into your post the processor that was removed and any acoustical or speaker changes that were made. Even then it's still not a true comparison unless just before the swap the old system was calibrated by the same technician, but still I have to ask what potential garbage equipment was being upgraded when the new processor went in?

Case in point, consider a Trinnov processor installed into an auditorium with underpowered Peavey speakers and then an old CP50 was installed with high end QSC speakers. That 40 year old CP50 is going to sound better!!!

I've no doubt the Trinnov produces very good results, but I would like to at least hear some truly fair comparisons because I suspect not all of these are...especially when I read such ridiculous claims such as the above post. My curiosity and concern here is similar to the old DLP demos where they ran the DLP on screen side by side against a completely beaten to hell film print.

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