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Marco Giustini
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I was shown the procedure briefly at CineEurope some time ago. But that would still not answer my question [Smile]

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Mike Babb
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The Ov2 is quite a bit easier than anything you might have seen some time ago, although the core optimizer technology is similar. I'll introduce you to Arnaud Laborie if you attend CineEurope this year.

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Torsten Juergens
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Another question.
Is it possible to run every single active surround speaker with a common subwoofer over a matrix as a 5.1 or 7.1 system?
If so, is then each speaker measured individually by the system and then combined as an array.
Or is the array formed by using a matrix before measured as one channel?
Which method would actually be the best?

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Steve Guttag
I would say the chief differences between simple time-alignment and phase alignment is the frequency dependent component.

Simple time alignment (delay) electrically compensates for a physical displacement (HF driver is physically behind an LF driver, one can delay the LF signals so they are emanating from the speaker system at the same time as the HF signals so it is a unified front.

Sorry for the late reaction, I had a busy few weeks running up to the end of the year. But thanks for pointing out what is being meant with 'Phase Response Alignment'. So I was correct in the initial assumption that it's time alignment based on the frequency component. Which makes sense, but in my opinion should get a more descriptive name. [Wink]

But... Interestingly, this is a feature that's also supported by Dirac Live, which comes with every AP20 and AP25. (And if I remember correctly also with more recent releases Audyssey, but which is limited to the home cinema domain). While I think that the auto-calibration features of the AP20 are OK, they're far from being perfect. So, it would be great to see or rather hear the difference between a Trinnov Ovation and Datasat AP20/AP25 in this regards.

quote: Mike Babb
Hi Marcel, Paris is not so far if you want to connect in our office sometime for a demo and q&a, I can probably ask the CEO to lunch with us. He knows the technology and development history, as well as being able to decide how much is able to be discussed vs proprietary.
Challenge accepted, if I'm in the neighborhood and the French aren't on national strike, effectively disabling any kind of transportation option, I'll drop you a line. [Wink]

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Pete Naples
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"the French aren't on national strike"

Marcel, good luck with that!

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Leo Enticknap
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Just grab your self a gilet jaune, a bottle of Absinthe, a packet of Gauloises (or Gitanes - your choice), a placard with a glamour shot of Marine Le Pen on it and a few rocks to chuck at the gendarmes, and I'm sure that they'll let you through the roadblocks and get to the Trinnov factory without any problem! [Razz]

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Marcel Birgelen
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I think I will order a few Le Pen bumper stickers, let's hope they're not permanently adhesive. The bottle of absinthe will make a good companion to the mandatory alcohol test you're supposed to have in your car. [Wink]

From someone who lives there and has to travel from the Côte d'Azur to Paris and back again several times a week, I've heard the trick to bypass most roadblocks is to simply put a 'gilet jaune' behind your window. Also, he has swapped his regular car for a rental of the lowest class.

Still, the French way of staging a strike is an art-form in itself. [Wink]

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Mike Babb
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Torsten, answered you via email.

Marcel, I'm in the US til February but we'll catch up in the new year if possible.

For anyone attending ICTA Los Angeles, I will be there, and also doing an Ov2 presentation at MiT on the 24th.

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Marcel Birgelen
The bottle of absinthe will make a good companion to the mandatory alcohol test you're supposed to have in your car.
You don't need to worry about that. The mandatory breathalyzers only detect English gin, Scotch whisky, Belgian beer, Graanjenever, Schnapps, Chianti and Rioja. They cannot detect the presence of Claret, Armagnac, Kronenbourg, Absinthe, Cointreau, or any other domestically produced alcoholic beverage in a breath sample. This is a concession that the agricultural workers' union extracted from the government in exchange for refraining from dragging M. Macron to the guillotine by the towbar of a Citroën Deux Cheveaux.

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Steve Guttag
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I'll be at ICTA but have not planned to stay over...in fact, I leave at a very early hour for LA time.

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Marcel Birgelen
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Well... I'm just veering slightly off-topic, but...

quote: Leo Enticknap
You don't need to worry about that. The mandatory breathalyzers only detect English gin, Scotch whisky, Belgian beer, Graanjenever, Schnapps, Chianti and Rioja. They cannot detect the presence of Claret, Armagnac, Kronenbourg, Absinthe, Cointreau, or any other domestically produced alcoholic beverage in a breath sample. This is a concession that the agricultural workers' union extracted from the government in exchange for refraining from dragging M. Macron to the guillotine by the towbar of a Citroën Deux Cheveaux.
That's great to know. I had a "guaranteed certified set" of them, they even were pretty hard to get around here... "What? Throw-away breathalyzers? Ils sont fous ces Français!"

So, I finally got a set, only to discover that they come with an expiration date... Now I bought like a 10-pack for about the same I paid for just one from AliExpress... I'm wondering though if they're correctly calibrated to avoid the detection of French alcoholic produce though. [Wink]

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