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Jim Leko
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From: Redondo Beach, CA, USA
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 - posted 07-21-2002 04:26 AM      Profile for Jim Leko   Email Jim Leko   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We played EPII for 7 weeks before we took it out. Even though we have the best sound in the area, most people don't think a mall theater can be a quality theater, and when they go to see Star Wars, they want a quality theater (too bad the quality sucked due to video taping the movie)

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Charles Everett
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Episode 2 opened subrun and got beat out by a J.Lo movie? ROTFLOL!

The UA Union Square in NYC dropped Episode 2 for two days last week when Eight Legged Freaks opened. Episode 2 returned to Union Square on Friday and should play through 8/1 at least. (Union Square is not getting Austin Powers in Goldmember or The Country Bears.)

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Charles Everett
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 - posted 07-31-2002 05:13 PM      Profile for Charles Everett   Email Charles Everett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As of tomorrow Episode 2 will breath its last in the UA Union Square. Lucasfilm won't allow a double-up of Episode 2 with anything else.

This means the only way you can see Episode 2 in Manhattan is the DLP at the AMC Empire.

OTOH the AMC Empire picks up The Fast Runner for late afternoon/evening shows starting Friday.

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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 - posted 07-31-2002 05:27 PM      Profile for James R. Hammonds, Jr   Email James R. Hammonds, Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Not to be rude, but does anyone really care anymore?

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David Stambaugh
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 - posted 07-31-2002 05:31 PM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"Lucasfilm won't allow a double-up of Episode 2 with anything else."

Cinemark has it doubled-up here, looks like with Bourne Identity.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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 - posted 08-11-2002 04:23 PM      Profile for Claude S. Ayakawa   Author's Homepage   Email Claude S. Ayakawa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was not yet registered at Film Tech when this topic was the one getting the most response at the time but I thought I should put in my two cents worth now. It is very obvious that Lucas is no longer the "Cinema Wonder Boy" everybody made him out to be when the original "STAR WARS trilogy were produced. I am very glad almost everyone agrees with me that Lucas is now a 'Has Been'. Despite the negative opinion many people have of him, he still has the audacity to dictate to the motion picture industry to put in digital projection equipment or else be left out when "EP3" is released. If I was a theatre owner, not only would I not put in digital equipment to oblige him but I would also tell him to take his film and shove it up you know where. Boy! It made me feel real good to say that.

-Claude


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Tom Fermanian
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 - posted 08-11-2002 10:06 PM      Profile for Tom Fermanian   Email Tom Fermanian   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Fully Agree!,
SWEP3 was refused by a majority of Indy theatres(representing 60% of revenues in Quebec) here on it's release date,NOT ONE HAS TAKEN THE PICTURE OFF RELEASE AND PROBABLY WON'T, Hey they all have had an excelent summer despite the absence of SWEP3! Hey they have money left over so there!

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Paul Konen
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Going into Week #16 with EP2 on the smaller of the two screens for DLP. Signs on the other.

With the quality of movies that are coming out. It may last a couple more weeks.

BTW, it still pulls at least a 50% (133) capacity for a couple show a day during the weekend.

Paul.

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Mike Spaeth
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 - posted 08-27-2002 01:26 AM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Star Wars had a 5-week run at my discount theatre (7/19/02-8/22/02).

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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 - posted 08-27-2002 05:54 PM      Profile for James R. Hammonds, Jr   Email James R. Hammonds, Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
After one whole month, Star Wars Episode 2 sill no longer playing at my theater.

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Dustin Mitchell
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 - posted 08-27-2002 07:18 PM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's right, Lucas is a has been and Episode II was a complete failure. That is why it's made $300 million. You guys need to understand the difference between not meeting expectations and being a 'flop.'

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Richard C. Wolfe
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 - posted 08-27-2002 11:45 PM      Profile for Richard C. Wolfe   Author's Homepage   Email Richard C. Wolfe   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dustin, I have to basiclly agree with you. However, I do think that Lucas does deserve to be chastised for GREED. Had he sold the picture as any other potential summer blockbuster release with a minimun 4 week run at 70, 60, 50, 40 and 35 out over 90/10 it would have been considered a big hit. As you pointed out, even if sarcastically, a 300 million dollar gross is anything but a flop. If he truely believed in his picture and it had done the huge business that he had hoped for, he would have still gotten the big film rental as those grosses would have made the 90/10 kick in. But no, he had to get the big bucks even if it didn't perform. Had the picture had legs and held in, exhibitors would have thought nothing of holding it beyond four weeks. His terms seems to suggest that he wasn't convinced that he had the big winner that many expected, or at least hoped for. The ultimate price that he may have to pay is for the next one. It will be very hard for him to demand the high terms and long playing time that he forced upon theatre owners this time. And it will make it even harder to convince exhibitors to make the change to digital for the next one as well.

Even with 300 million, this one was a failure for most exhibitors, although maybe not for him. His failure will come next time, when it's time to pay the piper.

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Mike Spaeth
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Lucas will get what he wants with Episode III as well. Everyone chanted the same lines they're chanting now after Episode I. But when push came to shove ... they shelled out the necessary terms.

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Dustin Mitchell
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That's generally true Mike, but the booking terms, at least in regards to restrictions on moving prints to different auditoriums, etc, were a lot less severe for Episode II than they were for I.

Richard, I see where you are coming from, but I have to disagree to this picture being a loser for most exhibitors. When we finally dropped Ep II after its 13th week (I can't say if we were locked into a 12 week contract or not), it was stilling filling half our smallest auditorium on the weekends. This is very rare for us, and I personally think the picture held up very well, at least in this area.


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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 08-28-2002 02:09 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Since we're in a small town, we had to wait three months for the movie. If we'd had it on the opening, or within a reasonable time (3 to 4 weeks off the break) we'd have grossed 2 to 5 times what we did on it. Thanks, George.

As for the terms next time....by the time EP III rolls around, I agree Lucas will get whatever he wants again, because expectations and hype for the film will be astronomic...but he may not have very many screens to open on, because supposedly he's going to "require" digital cinema everywhere. Good luck, George! Ever try grossing 300 million on under 1000 screens? (BTW, that screen count is just a speculative guess)

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