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Topic: What is a roadshow release?
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Bill Gabel
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posted 10-10-2002 01:21 PM
Quote: ____________________________________________________________ They apparently never upgraded the 6 Track mag from A to SR. ____________________________________________________________The only real upgrade to a full CP200 is to exchange the cat22 cards for cat280 cards. And now you have SR. The only other problem, would be if the 70MM print was A or SR. Sometimes the studios would make 70MM SR prints for LA & NY. And the rest are 70MM A for the rest of the cities. Other wise the theatre would have to buy or rent the extra cat280 cards. That's alot of extra cat280's to be sitting around.
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Bill Gabel
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posted 10-10-2002 02:20 PM
You are right the Edward's Newport is a nice house. It reminds me of a longer version of the National theatre in Westwood. Maybe it was just that they only could get 70MM Dolby A prints. Over the years I have found that most of the times the booking dept. or studio has no idea whats in the booth. Or what we can do in the booth. The 70MM Edwards houses I worked had just regular CP200s and nothing special. Because when I was in Westwood at the Festival Theatre (when it was Cineplex). We had to rent the extra cat280 cards. The manager rode over those like they were gold. The manager did not like the operators from Local 150. Sometime its just thats the only type print you can get. David
Did you get the info on the Surf theatre?
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Michael Coate
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posted 10-11-2002 04:33 PM
Dave Stambaugh wrote: quote: I'd be curious to know when/if [Edwards Big Newport] ever augmented the stage speakers with baby-boom there. Also am curious why they apparently never upgraded the 6-track mag from A to SR.
I'm not sure about either. The initial push for theatres to install subwoofers for 70mm seems to have been with Close Encounters. But Newport didn't play that in 70mm so perhaps they put off the installation. (I don't think very many theatres installed subs at that point in time, anyway.) But weren't theatres required to install subwoofers in order to play Altered States if they were going to advertise it in Megasound (aka "70mm Six-Track Dolby Stereo + Megasound" )? Newport Beach had one of the few Southern California first-run 70mm engagements of Altered States, and it was advertising it in Megasound (in some, but not all, of the ads during its run). But then, Newport ran 70s of other "Megasound" releases (Outland and Superman II) and neither was being advertised in Megasound (whereas other Southern California 70mm engagements were) so maybe Newport never did have Megasound (or any type of subwoofer system at that time). As for "SR," I can remember seeing at least one advertisement for Lawrence Of Arabia ('89 rerelease) at the top of the Edwards directory that included an "SR" logo. *But* that may have been "built in" to the Columbia ad and not a specific notation of the presentation. Wasn't the 1989 70mm rerelease of Lawrence dual inventory ("A" and "SR")? But like Bill mentioned earlier, it could've simply been a case of not being able to ever get an SR print even if they had the playback capability given the low quantity of SR prints being produced. Newport was lucky enough to get the number of 70mm prints that they did. Whether "A" or "SR," 70mm presentations at the Big Newport always seemed to be top-notch. And believe it or not, the Big Newport ran more first run 70mm than both the Chinese and Cinerama Dome. (Newport's last 70mm engagement was Hamlet in early '97.)
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David Stambaugh
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posted 10-11-2002 04:51 PM
I don't recall "Megasound" ever advertised there, but it's possible. It seemed like they always had very clean, dynamic sound, but I don't remember ever noticing any low-freq content that would be comparable to what we can get with today's digital .1 LFE channel.Wasn't Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade advertised at a handful of LA theaters in 70mm with split surrounds, maybe SR too. ? To the best of my knowledge, the Newport never advertised SR or split surrounds, and I never noticed any split surround content, until CDS was installed there for Dick Tracy. I have no trouble believing that Newport ran more 70mm than the Chinese & Dome. Newport got a lot of stuff in 70mm that probably had very limited distribution in that format.
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Michael Coate
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posted 10-11-2002 06:01 PM
quote: I don't recall "Megasound" ever advertised there, but it's possible. It seemed like they always had very clean, dynamic sound, but I don't remember ever noticing any low-freq content that would be comparable to what we can get with today's digital .1 LFE channel.
I have the Altered States Megasound ad in my collection.... I seem to recall 70mm presentations of movies like Top Gun, The Untouchables, and even E.T. (original '82 mix) having scenes with intense, deep bass. Of course, I always felt the deep bass was weaker at Newport compared to, say, the nearby Orange Cinedome (even after they installed the digital formats).
quote: Wasn't Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade advertised at a handful of LA theaters in 70mm with split surrounds, maybe SR too. ?
You could look it up in the "70mm in L.A." database at www.widescreenreview.com. I'll save you the effort.... Yes. Mann National Westwood. Mann Chinese Hollywood. SR and split surrounds. SR was indicated in the Paramount display ad. The Mann Theatre directory for those two engagements stated: "THX 70MM 6 Track DOLBY SR with Stereo Surrounds."
quote: I have no trouble believing that Newport ran more 70mm than the Chinese & Dome. Newport got a lot of stuff in 70mm that probably had very limited distribution in that format.
However, I don't believe Newport ever played anything that wasn't also playing in at least one L.A. theatre simultaneously. In other words, no Southern California exclusives, though they did run many Orange County exclusives. That statistic/piece of trivia about Newport running more 70mm than those big premiere Hollywood houses is somewhat misleading or useless in that the Newport increased from a single screen to a twin and later to a 3-plex (today a 6-plex). But then, much of the 70mm engagements at the Chinese during the '80s were on screens 2 and/or 3 (which were built in 1979). Not to mention that the Chinese and Dome were running 70mm several years earlier than Newport (which opened for business in 1969. First 70mm engagement: Gone With The Wind.). So who knows; make what you want out of the trivia.
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