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Mark J. Marshall
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As for the overseas gross, it seems Moore is getting some endorsements in the Middle East, which may help him.
Link Here

Michael Moore film appeals to terrorists
'Fahrenheit 9/11' gets thumbs-up from Hezbollah


Posted: June 17, 2004
5:00 p.m. Eastern


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Opponents of filmmaker Michael Moore are making the most of an endorsement his Bush-bashing film "Fahrenheit 9/11" received from terrorists affiliated with Hezbollah.

The Guardian of London reported today organizations related to the Middle East-based terrorist network have offered to help promote the film in the United Arab Emirates.

The terror-war supporting organization Move America Forward released a statement today saying the news about Hezbollah proves a contention it made about terrorist endorsement of Moore's award-winning documentary.

Earlier this week, Move America Forward Vice Chair Melanie Morgan declared: "It would be more appropriate to have this propaganda shown at al-Qaida training camps rather than American movie theaters."

The organization released an "apology" for Morgan's statement today, saying she didn't go far enough with her criticism.

"I regret that we limited our comments solely to the terrorist organization al-Qaida and failed to mention that other terrorist groups, like Hezbollah, would also rally behind this film," said the group's chairman, Howard Kaloogian.

"'Fahrenheit 9/11' serves one purpose and one purpose only: to undermine the United State's war against terrorism. This is precisely why Move America Forward has asked Americans to register their dissatisfaction with movie theaters that choose to show this film."

Concluded Kaloogian: "Now is the time for Americans to stand united behind the men and women fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan to preserve our safety and national security, not promote the agenda of radical terrorist organizations like Hezbollah."

Tina Brown reviewed the movie for the Washington Post, hammering Moore for his use of "wacky insinuations."

"In Moore's version of Iraq nobody was hanging from a meat hook in Saddam Hussein's jails. Baghdad was a happy city where children frolicked in the streets until boom! we blew them away," she writes.

"The invasion of Afghanistan? That was just a cover for running an oil pipeline across the country. …"

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Thomas Procyk
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It would be funny if this movie started a war.

And by funny, I mean what Randy means as funny... like Nuclear War funny.

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Mark J. Marshall
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You have it backwards, Thomas, but maybe you haven't heard... radical islamic terrorists very much like the ones that just endorsed Moore's movie declared war on us over a decade ago. And it's not funny in any sense of the word.

What will be interesting to see will be how this movie's gross balance plays out here and abroad. I predict it could be a block buster in France. And I guess we can probably add Syria to that list too now since that's where the Hezbollah head quarters is. Does anyone know if Bashar Assad allows movie theaters in Syria? If he does, does he allow U.S. films to be shown there? I have no idea.

I know that the release here in the US will be somewhat limited for several reasons, but does anyone know what the release schedule and market penetration looks like in other parts of the world?

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Carl Martin
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i think k.d's onto something. okay, not 350mil, but around here you'd think tv was going out of style. we've sold out 2 600-seat shows on friday, added a print, have midnight shows all weekend, are bringing in staff from other theaters. apparently there will be a demonstration outside the theater friday night (pro, i think) which should clog up the sidewalk good and proper. [this is a downtown side-street 3-screener where things normally stay pretty relaxed.]

this will be interesting.

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Eric Hooper
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Carl,

All the Friday evening shows in The City are sold out too. (All four theatres showing the film). Why didn't they give us more prints/theatres in this region???

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Pravin Ratnam
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I would advise the Landmark Midtown 8 in atlanta to not even bother showing Terminal on two screens and add an extra screen
for F911 this weekend, at least for the evening shows. F911 is going to outgross The Terminal by a decent margin this weekend, especially in the cities. Landmark is going to clean up for this movie since no theaters nearby are showing it. Looks like AMC is showing this at almost every Atlanta location. Regal has finally come on board with 2 locations.

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Jim Bedford
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It is interesting how reactionary Bush supporters and radical christian terrorists (are these redundant terms?) seem to be doing everything they can to increase the gross of this film. It's like Mr. Moore tossed raw meat out to them and they bit.

It may not do $350M, but since it's political season, it's likely to be the highest grossing doc of all time.

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quote: Eric Hooper
Why didn't they give us more prints/theatres in this region???
there were rumors at first we might get 3 prints (yes, one on every screen) but there weren't enough to go around so we were alloted one. then they decided they had enough to give us 2. basically, because it was bandied about a while before settling on a distributor, there wasn't enough time to make enough prints to satisfy the demand.

there's some group that's encouraging people to go and see the movie opening night. yeah, great advice there. spread it out, people!

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Mark J. Marshall
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So, let's have some opening weekend predictions! This could be fun! [Big Grin]

I know theaters may be selling out, but try to remember how many prints are actually in play.

I'll aim low and say 13 million.

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Paul Mayer
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Looks like F9/11 is opening on nine screens here, which is six more than I thought would get it in this town:

Regal Village Square 18--2 (west side art screens)
Century Orleans--2
Century Stadium 16 Rancho Santa Fe--1
Century 18 Sam's Town--3
Regal Colonnade 14--2 (east side art screens)

I'm surprised the Century Suncoast 16 didn't get it, as they are another west side house with art/foreign/indie screens.

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Pravin Ratnam
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13M too low. 20M minimum. I say 25M opening weekend even with only 900 theaters. I think this is the kind of movie people will be willing to commute 10 miles to watch. Looks like they are adding locations each day. However no chance in hell it will get even a third of the KD 350M prediction.
That still remains a dumb prediction. I think most of the people wanting to watch this will watch it early or on DVD.

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Might not F-9/11 be looked at as another side or the anti-side of "The Passion of the Christ"? Seems like that film drew as many fanatics, zealots and extremists as this could from a totally different demographic.

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Mark J. Marshall
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Passion averaged about $ 27,500 per theater opening weekend. With 900 theaters, F911 would have to bring in a total of about 25 million to do that. Some say they think it can. I don't think so, but I've been wrong before!

Either way, this will be interesting to watch, just like Passion's opening was.

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Kamakshipalya Dhananjay
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This just in :

Two single day records of New York City Theatres just shattered.

Link :
'Fahrenheit 9/11' Turns on Box Office Heat

Quote :
'Fahrenheit 9/11' Turns on Box Office Heat
Wednesday June 23 10:17 PM ET

Director Michael Moore 's controversial documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" turned on the box office heat in its first day in theaters breaking single-day records at the two New York City theaters where it played.

The movie, which aims a critical eye at President Bush and his prosecution of the war in Iraq , sold $49,000 worth of tickets at the Loew's Village 7 theater, beating the venue's single-day record of $43,435 held by 1997's "Men in Black," according to distributors Lions Gate Films and IFC Films.

At the Lincoln Plaza theater, "Fahrenheit 9/11" took in more than $30,000 to top the $24,013 set by "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" in 2000.

spokesman for Lions Gate Films said the company debuted the movie in the two theaters to help build good word-of-mouth -- friend telling friend -- publicity ahead of the wide debut on Friday when it plays in 868 theaters in all 50 states.

The film has caused a storm of controversy because director Moore, whose past work includes Oscar-winning documentary "Bowling for Columbine," makes a case that the Bush administration was determined to invade Iraq following the Sept. 11 attacks.

The movie links Bush family members and business associates with wealthy Saudi Arabian families, including that of Osama bin Laden , and Moore clearly wants to see the president fail to win reelection in this fall's presidential campaign.

Groups have organized support for and against the movie, and audiences appear to be keen to see it.

Online ticket service Fandango.com on Wednesday reported that "Fahrenheit 9/11" was making up 48 percent of advance ticket sales for the weekend ahead, compared to 11 percent for "Dodgeball" and 9 percent for next week's "Spider-Man 2"
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From Daily Variety on the numbers of Moore's crocumentary:

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Posted: Fri., Jun. 25, 2004, 3:41pm PT

'Fahrenheit' overheats Friday B.O.

Boffo sales put doc in running for No. 1 spot

By GABRIEL SNYDER


Buzz works.
After weeks of debate and media coverage, "Fahrenheit 9/11" opened today far better than expected.

An estimate of just how well it could do is difficult to make, but as of 3 p.m. on the West Coast, it looks as if Michael Moore's doc could sell between $6 million and $8 million worth of tickets on its first day.

Playing at 868 theaters, the pic would have an amazing one-day theater average of $6,912 at the low end of that range.

It is still too soon to tell where "Fahrenheit" will end up for the weekend, though the strong perf out of the gates makes the pic a contender for the No. 1 spot at the box office.

"Fahrenheit" is distribbed by the Bob and Harvey Weinstein's Fellowship Adventure Group and by Lions Gate and IFC Films.

Distribs declined to give an estimate for the day, but Lions Gate prexy Tom Ortenberg said, "There are many, many theater that are selling out many shows. We are thrilled. Things are going great."

"I don't think anyone thought it would do this well," said IFC topper Jonathan Sehring. "I know Lions Gate didn't and I know we didn't. And I wouldn't say Harvey did, but he has always been very bullish on this film."

By mid-afternoon, box office tracking service Rentrak, which is collecting ticket data from 406 locations, had recorded $2.9 million in sales.

How much higher that figure might go is difficult to say since many of those locations have likely already sold out all of their remaining evening shows. However, responding to strong demand, some theater managers may move the pic to bigger auditoriums, allowing them to sell more tickets for the day's remaining shows.

A bigger complication, though, is estimating how much business the 462 theaters not tracked by Rentrak will do. Industry conventional wisdom is that the non-tracked theaters gross less than those that supply data.

"Fahrenheit" is crushing both expectations of those involved in the film as well as industry rivals.

Ortenberg said that while tracking data did not predict sales this strong, the trends had been encouraging.

"The most important thing in the tracking is the trend. Every day our numbers keep going up for awareness and interest," he said.

Sehring added, "It would be great if it held for the weekend. It could break the documentary box office record in just one weekend."

That record is, for the moment, is $21.6 million cume for Moore's 2002 doc, "Bowling for Columbine." But, that pic played for 25 weeks before it crossed $20 million.

Read the full article at:
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