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Martin McCaffery
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Availability is sort of a multi-track operation. Some of the studios have platter prints and "archive" prints, which are not supposed to have their heads are tails cut, but always do by the time they get here. We're a two-machine operation, and the distributors which care always make sure to ask.

Then it is a matter of timing and money. We showed Psycho in October the same reason everyone else did, it is Halloween related. As ours was only a one night show in a small market, we were pretty low priority. The places that were showing multiple nights, in bigger markets and, most likely, booked it months before we did (and we booked two months out) are going to get the good 35mm print.

Nonetheless, I believe we were the second highest grossing screen in town that night.

We got a fairly decent copy of The Big Lebowski in September, and Animal House before that. It is just there are very few prints available, and even fewer being restruck.

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Manny Knowles
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I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner -- but why not just choose another movie?

PSYCHO isn't especially associated with Halloween. I mean, HALLOWEEN is more of an obvious choice, for example.

Why not book an actual film print of something that was appropriate, marketable and available?

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Martin McCaffery
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I've got a board committee to deal with, it was their choice. Just like Stripes in a couple of weeks.

Thankfully, they only pick these special one off shows. If it was totally up to me, yeah, no DVD's.

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David E. Nedrow
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Martin,

Of the six "archive" prints we received for a 24-hour horror marathon on the 23rd, 5 had the heads and tails cut. One even just had the leaders masking taped on, but not taped down, so film was all over the place in the cans. That one generated a complaint call to the distributor. These prints are supposed to be changeover only, but it's clear there's some "cheating" going on.

PSYCHO came in with cut leaders, but was in very good condition. ISLAND OF LOST SOULS was uncut and looked stellar. I don't think anyone in the audience had ever seen a print of this film looking this nice. I know I hadn't. The film is a bit dark to begin with, but the density of the print was something else. And, it was struck on a very heavy base, so Universal deserves some props for this one.

-David

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Manny Knowles
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quote: Martin McCaffery
I've got a board committee to deal with
Ohhhhhh.

That ends that.

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Brad Miller
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quote: David E. Nedrow
These prints are supposed to be changeover only, but it's clear there's some "cheating" going on.
Cutting the leaders and building to 6000 foot reels for changeover operation is TECHNICALLY still changeover operation.

That of course is NOT what the studios mean, but it happens all the time.

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Steve Guttag
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Some of these archives have a no-splice/no repair clause in them...if there is a problem with the print...you are to report it immediately and not necessarily repair it yourself. After all, how are they to know your splicing capability? If you want to run THEIR print, you play by THEIR rules.

Many of the "archive" prints do indeed have head/tail splices...they certainly don't want to add to that.

Steve

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Louis Bornwasser
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Any excellent operator can peel the existing splices and return the print EXACTLY as shipped. Louis

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Tom Petrov
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quote: Martin McCaffery
They can't watch the film they "own" on a big screen, in a theatre, with 100 other people at their house, so what is it about "owning" the DVD that makes them feel ripped off seeing one in the theatre?
Makes sence, why pay to for a movie twice if in fact alreay own it.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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quote: Martin McCaffery
They can't watch the film they "own" on a big screen, in a theatre, with 100 other people at their house, so what is it about "owning" the DVD that makes them feel ripped off seeing one in the theatre?
If "big" is important, they certainly can watch on a "big" screen at home. Front HD 1080p projectors are available these days for under 2 grand. A 12' wide screen at home, when you are sitting 18' feet back from the screen, gives you the same emotional impact as a 30' screen sitting 50 feet back.

Most people who have a problem with paying to see a DVD/BLURAY don't care if they can see it with a 100 other people. In fact, my guess is most would rather not.

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Manny Knowles
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You got THAT right!

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Don Furr
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I just finished running the first 10 minutes of the new Blu Ray "Sound of Music" in my screning room. 11' screen sitting 18 feet back looks pretty damn good to me....and that's on a 1080P LCD. The track is kick-ass. [beer]

Don

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Martin McCaffery
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quote: Mitchell Dvoskin
Most people who have a problem with paying to see a DVD/BLURAY don't care if they can see it with a 100 other people. In fact, my guess is most would rather not.
Which brings us around again to the topic of this thread. If they "own" it already, and that matters, why bother going to the theatre no matter what the format?

Oh well.

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Jeremy Weigel
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I think it just comes down the nostalgia factor. They want to re-experience it the way they first saw it, which for some is more than just seeing it on the "big" screen. Having the occasional dust specs, minor scratches, the change over cues, etc. that all add to the look and "feel" of watching film.

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Mike Blakesley
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I am quite surprised that no projector manufacturer or BluRay player maker has come up with a "film-ize" setting that puts in a few random dust specks, simulated splices, etc. I mean you can do it with cheap video editing software, why not on a $60,000 projector?

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