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Topic: Is 3-D Still Going Strong?
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Claude S. Ayakawa
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From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA
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posted 02-01-2015 03:11 PM
Most of you are right about the declining amount of showtimes for 3D movies but the format itself is not dead. I have noticed that there have not been any new 3D film openings during the past month but to make up for lost time, JUPITER ASCENDING, SEVENTH SON and a new SPONGEBOB movie will be all opening in 3D next Friday. The Regal Theatres in my area has scheduled continuous 3D showing during the opening week for all three movies and will most likely be cut back after that but it at least gives 3D fans such as myself the opportunity to see them in that format during that first week.
Although there are not as much 3D features being released now compaured to the past, the format is far from dead with big pictures such as the new JURASSIC PARK and STAR WARS sequels as well as many others scheduled in 2015 and beyond.
Bobby, although Disney and Lionsgate have stopped releasing their 3D movies on blu ray in the format the other studios are still releasing them and Robert Furmanek of 3D Archive has promised more exciting films in 3D from the "Golden Age" coming in the many years ahead. I already have their DRAGONFLY SQUADRON, THE BUBBLE and the Fox film, INFERNO they restored for a video distributor in the UK and they all look fantastic in 3D. Bobby you are right, 3D blu Ray cost more but not too much more and many times they are priced the same when the 2D and 3D are on the same disc. For example, the long awaited KISS ME KATE in both 2D and 3D coming in a few weeks will only cost about $18.00 at Amazon. There are also many other sale when 3D discs can be purchased for less than KMK.
I love both theatre and home 3D but if I have to choose between the two, I think watching 3D films at home is better.
-Claude
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Marcel Birgelen
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posted 02-02-2015 03:10 AM
It will probably not go away entirely for the foreseeable future, as there have been quite some investments into it. Also, modern animated features get their 3D "for free" or at least at a reduced rate, since it's mostly just another rendering iteration at a slightly different camera angle and children, the general target audience, still seem to mostly like it.
Jupiter Ascending is a somewhat oddball production, it was primarily shot in 2013 and was postponed the last minute in June last year. In my opinion, there has been a steady decline of big budget 3D releases in the meantime.
I'm not entirely against the concept of stereoscopic 3D, but I do think the number of features where it actually adds something worthwhile to the experience is rather limited. The last time I really thoroughly enjoyed 3D was with Gravity, which is quite a while ago already. Somehow, it made total sense to me to see this in 3D.
Personally, I find it rather odd you're enjoying 3D more at home than at the theater. This discussion isn't new, but my problem with viewing 3D at home is the lack of size. I constantly have the feeling I'm looking at miniatures, especially with everything that has some negative parallax added to it. Also, the smaller image doesn't help with the rather large amount of edge conflicts in the average 3D production. No floating window will also help here, at least not for your standard issue flat panel TV.
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Bobby Henderson
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posted 02-02-2015 04:44 PM
quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
Bobby, although Disney and Lionsgate have stopped releasing their 3D movies on blu ray in the format the other studios are still releasing them and Robert Furmanek of 3D Archive has promised more exciting films in 3D from the "Golden Age" coming in the many years ahead.
I hadn't heard Disney discontinuing Blu-ray 3D releases. They've issued BD 3D versions of the last two Marvel movies. I would expect the next Avengers installment and next Pixar movie Inside Out to have BD 3D versions.
quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
I love both theatre and home 3D but if I have to choose between the two, I think watching 3D films at home is better.
Yeah, in some respects I do prefer watching 3D movies on my 65" TV set via Blu-ray 3D. The imagery is sharper than what I see projected in movie theaters. Perhaps that could change as laser-based projection brings about 4K 3D movies in theaters, with projection hopefully more sharply focused.
Downsides of 3D in the home: very few video stores rent out Blu-ray 3D discs. Viewers are pretty much stuck having to buy the movies they watch in 3D. Netflix has a growing catalog of 3D titles, but you need a very fast Internet connection to stream those 3D movies at a decent quality level. I can play some games on my Playstation 3 in 3D, but they vary in quality. So it's important to read reviews.
quote: Marcel Birgelen
Personally, I find it rather odd you're enjoying 3D more at home than at the theater. This discussion isn't new, but my problem with viewing 3D at home is the lack of size.
Watching a movie in 3D takes away the sense of scale of the screen, so giant sized screens really aren't all that important for 3D. You just have to sit in the right place within the theater or at home.
Like movie theaters, there's lots of variables in a home setup that make or break good quality 3D. My Samsung 65" TV does a very good job with it. To me Avatar looks just as good on my TV set in 3D as it did when I saw it in the theater via a RealD presentation. No ghosting or any other problems. Gravity looks fine in 3D on my TV set. I watched it in 2D and Dolby Atmos in the theater. The only thing I don't like about my setup is the active shutter glasses drink up batteries faster than I would like.
Some of the "miniatures" problems you mentioned can be present in both theatrical and home viewings. I think it comes down to how the movie's 3D was created. Some movies overdo it on the depth effect unintentionally making things seem a lot smaller than they are.
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Claude S. Ayakawa
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posted 02-02-2015 05:39 PM
Bobby, only the Marvel Super Hero movies are released in 3D in the U.S on blu ray by Disney because Marvel Studio is insisting that they do as part of the distribution contract that Marvel have with Disney. Disney has however stopped releasing their own movies in 3D on blu ray starting with FROZEN and MALEFICENT in the United States and Canada but continue to do so in the U.K and the rest of the world. The U.K is Region B but has released region free BD's of both FROZEN and MALEFICENT in 3D and I was able to obtain FROZEN from Amazon U.K and it is fantastic. I saw the movie in a theater in Real D and it was great but watching it at home was better.
Another nice thing about home 3D is the chance to see movies and other material such as "Golden Age" 3D movies including DRAGONFLY SQUADRON, THE BUBBLE, HOUSE OF WAX, INFERNO AND DIAL M FOR MURDER. AIDA and CARMEN from the operatic stage. Documentaries including CAVE OF FORGOTTEN DREAMS, PINA and IMAX features such as UNDER TGE SEA, HUBBLE TELESCOPE and others.
Bobby, I also have a Samsung and mine is a late model 40 inch TV and it too is a Active 3D set. Unlike you, my batteries seem to last a long time. I have a pair if Samsung glasses I paid about $20.00 and if you have a more expensive pair, it might be requiring more battery power and that might be the reason you have to change batteries more often.
-Claude
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Marcel Birgelen
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posted 02-03-2015 07:28 PM
quote: Bobby Henderson
Some of the "miniatures" problems you mentioned can be present in both theatrical and home viewings. I think it comes down to how the movie's 3D was created. Some movies overdo it on the depth effect unintentionally making things seem a lot smaller than they are.
I recently did some efforts to have my old CRT projector do "3D". This only practically works with shutter glasses. Gravity looked better this way, than on a ~51" TV I tried it. It's still no comparison to a real theater though.
Like I mentioned before, the problems primarily happen with negative parallax, you know, the objects that "stick out" of your screen. Gravity has quite a few of those. It just looked AWESOME on this 72 ft. screen I saw it on. Space stations felt like space stations, astronauts didn't feel like action figures which I could pluck just out of the sky. On this "tiny" TV, it did look exactly like that. Disable the "3D" and stuff looks like a normal movie on TV...
In my opinion, the strongest aspect of 3D is the negative parallax thing. I don't really give a damn about 3D movies that have all the action happening "behind the screen", as the enhancement here is just so minimal, it totally defies the purpose of "3D".
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