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William Hooper
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 - posted 08-16-2002 01:33 AM      Profile for William Hooper   Author's Homepage   Email William Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, that's the lobby of the AMC Empire 25 on 42nd Street in NYC. Originally the Eltinge Theatre, named for & partially owned by Julian Eltinge, a very famous theatrical female impersonator. Then it was the Empire Theatre, which became a burlesque house & was the theater in which Abbott & Costello first performed together.

Several years ago, a big deal was made about the theater being "saved", as it was moved with giant inflatable A&C figures seeming to pull it. When it was indicated that it would be incorporated into the AMC, it was generally sort of thought that it would be incorporated into an auditorium - I figured that they'd close off the balcony & underbalcony, & make the orchestra with the proscenium the big auditorium. The way it turned out was not what most were expecting.

There's a bit in Titus Andronicus where Titus' sons have been arrested, & a guy comes up & says that the emperor will spare their heads if Titus will give up his hand. Titus cuts it off & says "Here ya go!", & a little bit later a guy delivers his sons heads & says "Here ya go!" Titus probably thought the deal for saving his sons heads was, like the deal to save the Empire, supposed to be a little different.

John Pytlak has picked up on something that I've noticed too. It sort of becomes more unpleasant when so much recoqnizable reminder remains of a more sumptuous theatrical environment remains. The use of the Eltinge/Empire as the lobby of the AMC 25 probably satisfied who-knows-what-all regulations & historic requirements (they sure didn't need that much lobby) & the effect is initially spectacular in the contrast & incongruity of the escalators running through the proscenium, but after the initial visual impact, you start thinking about what you're looking at, & it becomes sort of depressing. You pass through this indicator of a gone, palatial theatrical experience into one which is contemporary, fairly featureless & unintending to impress.

When so much is still there to easily see what it was, it's sort of grisly & has an unpleasant feeling, like something immoral has been done. It's like a head on a pole. The Michigan in Detroit is another example:

Before: http://www.atos.org/Pages/Palaces/Michigan/Michigan.html

After: http://detroityes.com/downtown/michtheat_pan.htm

Everybody ooh's & ah's over the old proscenium theaters, & they're the most likely to be saved, but the postwar movie theaters are almost all gone. Auditorium decoration had been moving to more simplified schemes since art deco started coming in, then when sound came in & drapes, horsehair-stuffed mats & carpeted panels on the walls became more essential & worked into the design. You can see it especially in the Cinerama & D-150 theaters that are pictured all over the web - just drapes all around the walls. Those theaters were more severe, extreme & "undecorative" extensions of current auditorium schemes. The standard theaters at the time had decoration based on similar needed treatments for the walls, & usually out-of-the-catalog fixtures. But really the difference which made them work better than current generic stadium theaters were that they were closer descendants from an art deco tradition that was carried through auditorium decoration schemes - a scheme that relied greatly on line, much more than ornaments & fixtures. You can't get any sort of line going for a decoration scheme in short stadium shapes.


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William Hooper
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Installation woes:
Customer says he can get screen cheaper & will provide on site, it is from an AV company that was sure he must have meant "inches", not "feet"



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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 08-16-2002 09:33 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ugh. What a horrible place to watch a movie!

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Thomas Procyk
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William -- That pic of the theater in Detroit almost made me cry. People just don't care about quality or the experience anymore. They just want the product as quickly as possible. Hence "Digital Cable." My friend has this monstrosity and I literally can't watch TV at his house because it's like looking at a low-res AVI file with pixellation up the wazoo. "But you get 130+ channels!"

That second pic with the tiny screen reminded me of a film festival I was recently at at the State Theater in St. Petersburg, FL. While not exactly an impressive movie "palace", this single screener had some character to it. Unfortunately, there is no longer a booth, a screen, sound, or even chairs in it anymore, since they use it for punk and heavy metal concerts mostly, and the concession stand has been changed into a bar. Even the murals on the wall were covered with dirty drapes. So how did they run a film festival in this place? Easy. Folding charis, a sagging sheet as a screen, speakers from the stage, and glorious video projection!! (all the movies were on video anyway). I took what pictures I could, but I can't get my scanner working at the moment. It was a shame.

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Greg Pauley
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Keith Albee Theatre, Huntington,WV.



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Gerard S. Cohen
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 - posted 08-16-2002 04:51 PM      Profile for Gerard S. Cohen   Email Gerard S. Cohen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What I learned in my attempts to upload pictures to a post (I finally succeeded the third try) is:

1. It is possible to post the picture more than once in the same post
by clicking on PASTE more than once, provided this is done before submitting the file location address. Good for making borders, or for special uses only. And you can post other pictures at the same time by uploading their codes.
2. Once the picture has beeen added and viewed, it IS possible to delete it by clicking on the tab EDIT, and deleting the file name.
3. It IS NOT possible to reattempt to upload a picture in a post where one has been deleted. This accounts for my using more than one post space without success on the second page of this thread, and I suspect Matthew may have experienced the same problem.
4. There is a very conveniently placed link to the "Smilies" chart
at the bottom of the thread page, next to POST REPLY. I never noticed it before this week!
5. Many thanks to Brad for creating, maintaining and constantly improving this most valuable free website for us all! And bless those who may have assisted him in this labor of love!
Gerard

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 08-16-2002 05:39 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Once the picture is uploaded, it is there for all time. You can recall it at any point by using the same coding in another post. If you delete the line of code in your post, you have not actually deleted the file. Only I can do that.

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David Stambaugh
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 - posted 08-16-2002 09:28 PM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here are pictures that go with my "stories" in the Catharsis thread. These are photos of photos (my scanner is broken).

This shows the 2 identical "Q-System" signal processors that recorded the nuke info on 35mm film. You can see the film recorder & 500' magazines on the right. The operator could look through a viewing port and see the CRT and digital matrix image being recorded on film. That's not me tripping over the 'scope probe though.

This is the darkroom where I broke my toe sleeping on the job. That's a LabMaster 35mm film processor. The b/w photo above was developed and printed using the equipment & chemicals in this darkroom.

This is the control panel of "Old Sparky", the 50KW diesel generator that went blooey (not my fault).


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Manny Knowles
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I don't like theatres that have the audience higher than the screen. I don't think you should ever look down at a movie screen...especially when so many (American) camera angles are upward-looking.

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Brad Miller
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I agree Manny. That's why in general I dislike stadium seating auditoriums. Of course I also have found that in general the acoustics of a stadium house leaves a bit to be desired as well, but looking downward puts me to sleep.

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William Hooper
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quote:
I don't like theatres that have the audience higher than the screen. I don't think you should ever look down at a movie screen...especially when so many (American) camera angles are upward-looking.

All right young man, if you don't want to sit in the balcony with the rest of the family, you can just watch the REST of the movie from the orchestra pit! Don't think we're going to let you sit in the orchestra seating or god forbid the loge with the rest of your hoodlum friends; we know what happens there!


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David Stambaugh
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Looking up at a screen that's installed too high is worse.

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Steve Guttag
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From a "human engineering" standpoint, it is most comforatable to have a screen about at eye level. You may have been accustomed to looking up at screens but that is not how the body is made. There are limits to how high a screen can be before it becomes uncomfortable (pain).

Steve

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Thomas Procyk
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Brad--- I noticed that too. If I sit too high in the Stadium portion, i'm falling asleep halfway through the film because of looking down. (and I NEVER fall asleep during movies ) That's why when I'm with a group who insists on sitting in the top row, I usually separate from them.

OTOH, I did experience "pain" watching a sneak preview of Robin Williams' "Jack". The only seats left were in the front row, which was no more than 5 feet from the screen in their largest theater. I had to watch it in 10 minute intervals because my neck and eyelids hurt.

I guess anything "X-Treme" isn't good.
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Paul Konen
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