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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 03-01-2005 01:45 PM
Every time discussion of DC-10 crashes come up, I sadly remember John Lakotas, a Kodak motion-picture engineer and close friend, on his way back to Hollywood from an engineering meeting in Rochester on that fateful day at ORD on May 25, 1979. I last saw him about four hours before he died, as he left to catch his flight to Chicago.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19790525-2
quote: Date: 25 MAY 1979 Time: 15:04 CDT Type: McDonnell Douglas DC-10-10 Operator: American Airlines Registration: N110AA Msn / C/n: 46510/22 Year built: 1972 Total airframe hrs: 19871 hours Engines: 3 General Electric CF6-6K Crew: 13 fatalities / 13 on board Passengers: 258 fatalities / 258 on board Total: 271 fatalities / 271 on board Ground casualties: 2 fatalities
Flight 191 left the gate at Chicago-O'Hare at 14:59 and taxied to runway 32R. At 15:02 the flight was cleared for takeoff. The takeoff roll was normal until just before rotation at which time sections of the No. 1 engine pylon structure came off the aircraft. During rotation the entire no. 1 engine and pylon separated from the aircraft, went over the top of the wing, and fell to the runway. Flight 191 lifted off about 6,000 feet down the runway, climbed out in a wings level attitude, and reached an altitude of about 300 feet agl with its wings still level. Shortly thereafter, the aircraft began to turn and roll to the left, the nose pitched down, and the aircraft began to descend. As it descended, it continued to roll left until the wings were past the vertical position. The DC-10 crashed in an open field and trailer park about 4,680 feet northwest of the departure end of runway 32R. The aircraft was demolished during the impact, explosion, and ground fire. Two persons on the ground were killed.
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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 03-01-2005 11:12 PM
quote: John Pytlak Every time discussion of DC-10 crashes come up, I sadly remember John Lakotas, a Kodak motion-picture engineer and close friend, on his way back to Hollywood from an engineering meeting in Rochester on that fateful day at ORD on May 25, 1979.
I know what you mean John. I was working at Canon USA in Elmhurst when the crash happened. We were about 10 miles diectly south of the point of impact with giant floor to ceiling windows that faced north and it looked like the entire northern suburbs were going up. We all knew it was a plane crash being in such close proximity to the airport, we were right near the south west corner of ORD. Later that day we also learned of the fate of two Canon employees who were heading back to L.A.. Didn't know the Canon employees but I will never forget that day or the huge column of smoke not very far away!
quote: Leo Enticknap According to my cousin the Chicago crash was caused by the engine having been removed from its housing for maintenance using an unauthorised procedure
Leo, That is absolutely correct! It was a shortcut that AA maintainance had come up with on their own and was not FAA, or MD approved. Amazingly the plane could have been easily controled, brought back and safely landed. The pilot performed the opposite maneuver that he should have.... but he didn't know.... the maneuver that would have saved them wasn't even devised or thought of so it in his training or flight Sim. It was later devised, added to normal procedural training and every pilot training has to be able to perform that maneuver in the Flight Sim in order to qualify.
From Air Disasters. com
"The accident investigation revealed that, when the engine separated, it disabled the Captain's control panel, which contained both of the slat disagreement systems. The severed hydraulic lines allowed the slats on the left wing to gradually retract, and the stall speed on the left wing rose considerably. When the aircraft slowed through 164 knots, the left wing aerodynamically stalled because of its clean configuration, while the right wing continued to produce lift with its slats still in takeoff position. With one wing stalling and one wing producing full lift, the airplane eventually rolled past a 90° bank, and fell to the ground."
Hence..... Had they maintained speed the left wing would not have stalled and he could have gone around..... Altitude also had alot to do with it... not much time to react at 400 foot altitude.....
Mark
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John Pytlak
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Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 03-02-2005 09:11 AM
Did a quick search for more about John Lakotas. His memory lives on:
http://www.theacorn.com/News/2000/0720/Community/43.html
quote: REMEMBERING A LIFE, NOT MOURNING A DEATH – A resident of First Neighborhood in the city of Westlake Village, Lisa Wildermuth, plants a tree in memory of her father, John C. Lakotas, who was killed in a 1979 plane crash. The Jacaranda tree planted recently is part of a Memorial Tree Plan that allows residents to plant commemorative trees in greenbelts that lace their way around and through First Neighborhood. With Wildermuth are her husband, Michael, who’s standing on the left holding baby John (who was named for his grandfather), daughters Nicole, 5, and Rebecca, 8, along with Iraj Broomand, mayor of the city of Westlake Village.
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