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Carl Martin
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 - posted 03-01-2005 05:43 AM      Profile for Carl Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Carl Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
jarryd, what's up with that "scoville heat chart"? i can't figure the scale out. it's not linear or logarithmic. the most that can be said is that the numbers increase as you go up it. what do the numbers indicate?

carl

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Jarryd Beard
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Check out this link. Scoville Explained

quote:
Heat in peppers is measured in Scoville
Heat Units, named for Wilbur Scoville
who worked for the Parke Davis
Pharmaceutical Company. In 1912 he
was working on a muscle cream that used
capsaicin, the substance in peppers that
give them their heat. Scoville conducted
a series of tests with whole ground chilies
mixed in a solution of water & sugar. He
had a panel of 5 testers sip the solution
in increased dilutions until it reached the
point that it no longer burned the mouth.
Lot's of Prylosec & Rolaids in the room
(at least there would have been for me). A
number was then assigned to each pepper
based on how much it needed to be diluted
before you could not feel the heat.
One part of chili-heat per one million
drops of water was then rated at 1.5
Scoville Heat Units or SHU for short.
When asked, Scoville called his test
"The Scoville Organaleptic Test."
Measured in multiples of 100 units,
the pungency of chili peppers finds
itself at zero Scoville Units in your
basic green & colored bell peppers ,
while the hottest of hot peppers the
Red Savina variety Habanero chili
ranks in at a whopping 350,000 SHU.

Basically, it's the number of units of water required to eliminate all heat from a hot food.

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John Pytlak
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Every time discussion of DC-10 crashes come up, I sadly remember John Lakotas, a Kodak motion-picture engineer and close friend, on his way back to Hollywood from an engineering meeting in Rochester on that fateful day at ORD on May 25, 1979. I last saw him about four hours before he died, as he left to catch his flight to Chicago. [Frown]

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19790525-2

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Date: 25 MAY 1979
Time: 15:04 CDT
Type: McDonnell Douglas DC-10-10
Operator: American Airlines
Registration: N110AA
Msn / C/n: 46510/22
Year built: 1972
Total airframe hrs: 19871 hours
Engines: 3 General Electric CF6-6K
Crew: 13 fatalities / 13 on board
Passengers: 258 fatalities / 258 on board
Total: 271 fatalities / 271 on board
Ground casualties: 2 fatalities

Flight 191 left the gate at Chicago-O'Hare at 14:59 and taxied to runway 32R. At 15:02 the flight was cleared for takeoff. The takeoff roll was normal until just before rotation at which time sections of the No. 1 engine pylon structure came off the aircraft. During rotation the entire no. 1 engine and pylon separated from the aircraft, went over the top of the wing, and fell to the runway. Flight 191 lifted off about 6,000 feet down the runway, climbed out in a wings level attitude, and reached an altitude of about 300 feet agl with its wings still level. Shortly thereafter, the aircraft began to turn and roll to the left, the nose pitched down, and the aircraft began to descend. As it descended, it continued to roll left until the wings were past the vertical position. The DC-10 crashed in an open field and trailer park about 4,680 feet northwest of the departure end of runway 32R. The aircraft was demolished during the impact, explosion, and ground fire. Two persons on the ground were killed.


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Leo Enticknap
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Sorry. Actually, just after pressing 'send' on my last posting I had a nagging thought that someone who is in some way connected to one of the accidents I was joking about might end up reading it. I was just remembering a 'gallows humour' conversation with an off-duty flight attendant I ended up sitting next to on the flight home from Minneapolis about DC-10s crashing and blowing up.

By the same token as the DC-10s' (unfairly acquired) reputation for accidents, I sometimes feel a bit frustrated at that practically everything that's ever been written about the R101 airship takes the 'easy to be wise after the event' line that it was a flawed and incompetent design from the word go: one of my ancestors was a crew member who died in the crash. Several design innovations (e.g. self-regulating pressure valves) that began with that airship ended up being developed further and used in a number of different industries afterwards, so it's really not fair to describe the whole project as a complete dead loss.

My cousin, who is in his final year of an aeronautical engineering degree, assures me that the DC-10 is statistically a very safe aircraft indeed (if it wasn't, he pointed out, they wouldn't still be in use for scheduled transatlantic flights). The only real design flaw was the cargo door which caused the 1974 Paris crash: technically the issue was quite minor and was quickly fixed once it had been identified. According to my cousin the Chicago crash was caused by the engine having been removed from its housing for maintenance using an unauthorised procedure - nothing to do with the design of the plane itself. I'd have no problem traveling on one again.

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John Pytlak
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Leo: No offense taken. It would be even sadder if victims were not remembered. We shouldn't avoid talking about tragedies, sometimes it helps avoid future ones.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: John Pytlak
Every time discussion of DC-10 crashes come up, I sadly remember John Lakotas, a Kodak motion-picture engineer and close friend, on his way back to Hollywood from an engineering meeting in Rochester on that fateful day at ORD on May 25, 1979.
I know what you mean John. I was working at Canon USA in Elmhurst when the crash happened. We were about 10 miles diectly south of the point of impact with giant floor to ceiling windows that faced north and it looked like the entire northern suburbs were going up. We all knew it was a plane crash being in such close proximity to the airport, we were right near the south west corner of ORD. Later that day we also learned of the fate of two Canon employees who were heading back to L.A.. Didn't know the Canon employees but I will never forget that day or the huge column of smoke not very far away!

quote: Leo Enticknap
According to my cousin the Chicago crash was caused by the engine having been removed from its housing for maintenance using an unauthorised procedure

Leo,
That is absolutely correct! It was a shortcut that AA maintainance had come up with on their own and was not FAA, or MD approved. Amazingly the plane could have been easily controled, brought back and safely landed. The pilot performed the opposite maneuver that he should have.... but he didn't know.... the maneuver that would have saved them wasn't even devised or thought of so it in his training or flight Sim. It was later devised, added to normal procedural training and every pilot training has to be able to perform that maneuver in the Flight Sim in order to qualify.

From Air Disasters. com

"The accident investigation revealed that, when the engine separated, it disabled the Captain's control panel, which contained both of the slat disagreement systems. The severed hydraulic lines allowed the slats on the left wing to gradually retract, and the stall speed on the left wing rose considerably. When the aircraft slowed through 164 knots, the left wing aerodynamically stalled because of its clean configuration, while the right wing continued to produce lift with its slats still in takeoff position. With one wing stalling and one wing producing full lift, the airplane eventually rolled past a 90° bank, and fell to the ground."

Hence..... Had they maintained speed the left wing would not have stalled and he could have gone around..... Altitude also had alot to do with it... not much time to react at 400 foot altitude.....

Mark

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Paul Konen
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I was working on my dads farm along I-88 in Aurora when the plane went down. Being that far away, I even felt that it was plane by ORD. About a hour later, went to the house to check on the news and sure 'nuff.

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John Pytlak
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Did a quick search for more about John Lakotas. His memory lives on:

http://www.theacorn.com/News/2000/0720/Community/43.html

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REMEMBERING A LIFE, NOT MOURNING A DEATH – A resident of First Neighborhood in the city of Westlake Village, Lisa Wildermuth, plants a tree in memory of her father, John C. Lakotas, who was killed in a 1979 plane crash. The Jacaranda tree planted recently is part of a Memorial Tree Plan that allows residents to plant commemorative trees in greenbelts that lace their way around and through First Neighborhood. With Wildermuth are her husband, Michael, who’s standing on the left holding baby John (who was named for his grandfather), daughters Nicole, 5, and Rebecca, 8, along with Iraj Broomand, mayor of the city of Westlake Village.


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Mark J. Marshall
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NOT an animated GIF...

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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Enough talk about DC10's that nobody cares about! Are you trying to bore this thread to death, people? If you are going to discuss something, you should at least discuss something interesting so that everyone else can remain awake. Comply or be BANNED!

And now the adventures of Boomer the Retarded Cat!
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Freakin' 'tard!

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Phil Hill
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Looks like "Boomer" has had a little too much drink!

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Mike Blakesley
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I tol'ja to stop keeping spare Film-Guard in the cat's water dish. Now look what happened.

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Phil Hill
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I wanted to post this for hhot James... but then I thought about my friends Danny and Josh, and then a couple of others here... SO little time!

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Brad Miller
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Gee Phil, so little time for what with James, Danny and Josh? [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

Here's a scary thought...
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Kyle McEachern
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This is a shot taken of a solar flare, put under some nifty filters. The cool part about it is that the gap created by the 'O' shape of the flame is big enough that the Earth could pass through it.

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