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Author Topic: New forum changes Bob Maar (Maar stands for Maartini) Posts: 28608 From: New York City & Newport, RI Registered: Feb 2001 posted 12-02-2002 12:38 PM                        Just in case you, are looking to drop me an entry for the Joke Forum I can be located by my member number 763. Don't let anyone know...it's a secret.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-03-2002 01:41 AM                        This doesn't have anything to do with the recent forum changes, but I do have a suggestion and would like to hear others' opinions about it (make sure you agree with my opinion). Signatures should be limited to company reps and special exceptions. I'm not sure what those special exceptions would be, but I'm sure a few could qualify. I just don't like seeing supposedly "funny" quips and whatnot at the end of every single post certain individuals make. They add absolutely nothing to the discussion, and are absolutely worthless... especially after you have seen them a billion times. They do not add personality. Signatures for company reps like John Pytlak are awesome. They provide actual useful information such as the company he works for, his title and easy contact info, etc. Sigs in this case actually DO add to any post. Thoughts?  |  IP: Logged William Leland III Master Film Handler Posts: 336 From: Charleston, SC, Registered: Aug 2002 posted 12-03-2002 09:32 AM                        Joe, I agree with you but do you really read every thing that a film-techer posts. No, half of these members write like millions and millions of words, and they ramble on and on, that have no point. I skim most posts and read the ones that are helpful. I know they want to include the most helpful information possible, but if you exceed 250 words end it.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 12-03-2002 10:26 AM                        quote: Signatures for company reps like John Pytlak are awesome. They provide actual useful information such as the company he works for, his title and easy contact info, etc. Sigs in this case actually DO add to any post. Thoughts? I don't agree. I don't see any need for signature files at all because this bulletin board software has the 'who?' button. If a reader wants to find out who someone works for, their job title and contact information, [s]he can get it by pressing that button. E-mail based listservs are a different kettle of fish because you have no means of finding out about a contributor unless their post includes a signature file. Becuase of this I make signature files compulsory on a list I moderate (i.e. I will not distribute any posts which don't have them), and insist that they contain at least the following information: full name, institutional affiliation, job title (if applicable) and e-mail address. If members want to include a postal address and 'phone number as well, that's fine. But on a forum like this, the 'who?' button takes care of that function. I suppose that could leave the issue of whether someone is writing in a professional or a personal capacity in each individual post. But that could be covered by a forum rule to the effect that members are assumed to be writing in a professional capacity unless they explicitly state otherwise. I'd guess that a lot of signature files have suddenly started appearing in the last few weeks becuase the new forum software defaults to include them, whereas with the previous version you had to select them.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-03-2002 02:08 PM                     The signatures have always been something I have disliked. I find them annoying to read the same old cheezy catch-phrase in the middle of a serious discussion over and over. John Pytlak is of course an excellent example of a great signature and one of the reasons signatures have continued to be allowed. The "who" profile button currently can not support all of the contact data that John chooses to provide. When the time comes that the program can be modified to offer that info in a member's forum (optional for each member, of course), then the signatures will probably be removed, or at least limited to 50 characters or something. If anyone really wants to see signatures kept after the profiles have been extended, please provide a good reason and I'll entertain it.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-03-2002 04:52 PM                     So Brad, Do wish that I remove my slogan? Personally, I don't care. It does let everyone know that I'm a changeover kinda guy which is how I'm viewed anyway. There is one friend that I told that all projection problems can be solved by going to changeover operation...thus everytime he had a problem or question...it was a trick to somehow fit the "changeovers somehow fix this sort of problem" into the conversation without actually mentioning it...sometimes it took 15 minutes before he caught on...it was great! Steve  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-03-2002 05:06 PM                     Yours isn't necessary (everyone knows you are a reel nut), but on the other hand it isn't obnoxious due to it's length. Hence my possible 50 character limitation thought. Another thought of mine was to put people's postings in bold so their signatures would clearly not be part of the discussion at a glance. Of course another solution would be to put the signatures in a smaller type. It's not something I'm too concerned about right now though.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 12-03-2002 06:22 PM                        Making the signatures appear in a smaller font size sounds like a good idea to me. Maybe restoring the 'company rep. titles' would be a good idea too. A 50 character or one line limit for 'non-company' signatures might also be a possible 'solution'. Most of the company reps with long signatures are good for turning them off when not relavent, like in the Movie Quote Game. Making entire posts appear in bold, though, is probably not a good idea. It's hard to read so much bold. In fact, in addition to the poor sentence structure and formatting of my post, the bold print makes it even harder to read. -------------------------------------- My non-bolded phiggidy-phat signature.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-03-2002 06:34 PM                        Uh, yeah. I don't even WANT to read Daryl's post. All the bold just looks bad. But smaller type would be cool. That way it would be easy to skip over unless someone wanted to read it.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-03-2002 08:09 PM                     Well how about an ALL-CAPS post and bold ? That should look just swell! Steve  |  IP: Logged Bob Maar (Maar stands for Maartini) Posts: 28608 From: New York City & Newport, RI Registered: Feb 2001 posted 12-03-2002 09:32 PM                        I DON'T THINK SO! WHAT DO YOU THINK?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-03-2002 09:45 PM                        OK HOW ABOUT ALL CAPS AND ALL BOLD, NOT TO MENTION ALL ITALICS???  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 12-03-2002 09:59 PM                        HOW ABOUT BIG, BOLD, UNDERLINED,  ITALIC POSTS with really small and entirely lowercase signatures  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-03-2002 11:34 PM                        How about the same plain old text, same old boring subject matter with certain lack of knowledge... but no signature?  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-04-2002 12:44 AM                     I think we as Americans in this Great Land of Equality and Opportunity should continue to have the Freedom of signatures at the bottom of our posts. When we start regulating who gets to have a signature and who doesn't then, as the Ad Council puts it, America is not America anymore and Freedom Itself is under Attaq. If we don't have signatures at the end, then the terrorists have won. So yeah. Keep the signatures. No offense to our international members. =TMP=  |  IP: Logged

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