Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE


  
my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Community   » Film-Yak   » Pilot kicks the crying kid off the plane (Page 3)

 
This topic comprises 5 pages: 1  2  3  4  5 
 
Author Topic: Pilot kicks the crying kid off the plane
Steve Kraus
Film God

Posts: 4094
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 10-22-2003 01:03 AM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You seriously believe that a woman breast-feeding a child is doing it for attention? I hope you're being sarcastic because otherwise it's a pretty asinine statement.

Breast Feeding Info

 |  IP: Logged

Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1687
From: Port Gamble, WA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 10-22-2003 09:21 AM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yep, when they do it in restaurants and in public places without covering their "activities". Also, it's illegal.

 |  IP: Logged

Steve Kraus
Film God

Posts: 4094
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 10-22-2003 11:16 AM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bull. Just in case there was any lingering ambiguity over the issue, your state of Washington enacted HB1590 and it was signed into law in 2001. Breastfeeding does NOT constitute indecent exposure. I don't understand people who think like you.

Info on the WA law

 |  IP: Logged

Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1687
From: Port Gamble, WA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 10-22-2003 11:56 AM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So women can haul their tits out in public any old time eh?
How about modesty, do you understand that?
So then is it ok to get a blow job in public too?

Like I said if they want to cover themselves and do the activity that's one thing, but I don't buy the "natual-beautiful" slant that's been applied in recent years. Also don't forget that it's the metro areas (I5 corridor) that dictate state law here although geographically they are the minority. Out here in the country, our backwards and non progressive towns and villages still have morality and decency laws.
Try to understand "people who think like you" as much as you want me to tolerate tits in a restaraunt. Or is this one of those one way streets?

 |  IP: Logged

Carl Martin
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1424
From: Oakland, CA, USA
Registered: Feb 2002


 - posted 10-22-2003 12:18 PM      Profile for Carl Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Carl Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
as much as you want me to tolerate tits in a restaraunt.
the more broad-minded among us tolerate tits wherever we see them.

but seriously, this is not a one way street. just as laws shouldn't prevent women from breast-feeding (although i think a restaranteur should be able to ban it if it's on his property, or at least impose a "corkage" fee), laws should not prevent you from feeling as you do. we will tolerate you, you will avert your gaze. deal?

carl

 |  IP: Logged

Steve Kraus
Film God

Posts: 4094
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 10-22-2003 12:44 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, since you asked, I really do have a difficult time understanding our society's difficulty with nudity. No I don't expect to see naked people walking down the street anymore than I would expect to see a girl in a string bikini. Not that either should be against the law. Yes, if it was a pretty girl walking downt the street nude I would find it, um, interesting. But that's a result of being conditioned by having been brought up in this society. Nudity does not have to equate with sex as much as some people want to insist that it does. Hence I will not dignify your question about blowjobs in public with a response since to bring that up in a discussion of breast feeding is a ridiculous attempt to force such a connection and I'm not buying into it.

In the more appropriate context of, say, a beach, why should someone unclad be any big deal? It's the human body--jeez louise. So what? (And yes, there are some that I'd rather not look at but so what to that, too.) As for the breast-feeding mother, again so what? When someone can demonstrate harm that comes from someone, even a child, observing the unclad human body then I would be more sympathetic to your point of view.

Even put in religious terms for the more conservatively minded I don't understand. Didn't Adam and Eve learn to be modest from the Devil? But to look at a nursing mother and to think this most natural of acts is evil...well, that is just warped.

 |  IP: Logged

John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 10-22-2003 01:21 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Kodak and other progressive companies encourage working mothers to breastfeed during working hours:

http://motherwear.com/Services/community/outreach/main_gate.asp?Page=3

quote:
Motherwear wishes to acknowledge the Healthy Mothers Healthy Babies Coalition, Breastfeeding Promotion Committee, for developing the original Competitive Edge brochure from which this was adapted.

Electronic Data Systems
Aetna
Los Angeles Department
of Water and Power
Cigna
Home Depot
Eastman Kodak
Motherwear
What Gives these companies a competitive edge?

Why should employers be concerned about working mothers who breastfeed?

Supporting breastfeeding in the workplace can positively impact your company's bottom line by lowering healthcare costs, enhancing productivity, improving employee satisfaction, increasing retention and improving corporate image.

http://www.socialfunds.com/news/release.cgi/241.html

quote:
A study of Working Well Moms,
CIGNA's (NYSE: CI) corporate lactation program for employees who breastfeed,
revealed a savings of $240 thousand annually in health care expenses for
breastfeeding mothers and their children. In addition, a savings of
$60 thousand annually is realized through reduced absenteeism among
breastfeeding mothers at CIGNA. The study also found that pharmacy costs for
breastfed children are lower, because they require 62 percent fewer
prescriptions.


 |  IP: Logged

Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
Boardwalk Hotel?"

Posts: 4143
From: Boston, MA
Registered: Apr 2002


 - posted 10-22-2003 03:05 PM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
So women can haul their tits out in public any old time eh?
That sounds like a great idea, Greg.

 |  IP: Logged

Steve Kraus
Film God

Posts: 4094
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 10-22-2003 03:44 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, can you imagine he's arguing against this? [Confused]

I have an automatic disdain when it comes to men telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies insofar as female-only issues are concerned.

 |  IP: Logged

Gerard S. Cohen
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 975
From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2001


 - posted 10-22-2003 03:46 PM      Profile for Gerard S. Cohen   Email Gerard S. Cohen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I find it very difficult to understand how anyone can become offended by the sight of a mother breastfeeding her child. Such a sight has always been considered natural, healthy and even holy. Witness the Mother and Child paintings and icons in churches and cathedrals in many countries.

In our pediatric office my wife counsels mothers on breast feeding, and mothers frequently nurse their babies in our waiting room. Neither children nor other adults have ever complained. On park benches, in publictransit and in fine restaurants, women have always nursed their children. In restaurants adhering to coat and tie dress codes, waiters may offer a scarf or mantilla if the mother prefers, or will offer to seat her out of the busy stream of traffic.

Could be those who find breastfeading mothers offensive have never been breastfed themselves, and having formed a distorted veiw of breasts, or of mothers, feel guilty about such a crippling attitude, and try to ban the practice?

Incidentally, men can be made to lactate by a series of simple hormone injections. If the survival of the human race ever depended upon it, that possibility exists.

Breastfeeding is here to stay, for all its practical, medical and psychological benefits it bestows on mothers and babies alike.

 |  IP: Logged

Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1687
From: Port Gamble, WA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 10-22-2003 07:21 PM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well I see everyone is ignoring what I say to bolster their arguments.
Breast feeding is ok. How's that?
Of all the women I have seen breast feeding in public only a small amount choose not to put a scarf or blanket over the nursing kid.
What is the problem you guys have with doing that? What problem could a woman have with doing that if it might offend someone?

"....Well, since you asked, I really do have a difficult time understanding our society's difficulty with nudity...."

So you admit society has a problem with it? So I'm not the only one? Boy do I feel better

".... But to look at a nursing mother and to think this most natural of acts is evil...well, that is just warped...."

Trying to put words in my mouth to bolster your argument? How lame.

"....Hence I will not dignify your question about blowjobs in public with a response since to bring that up in a discussion of breast feeding...."

Private body parts being sucked on in public, are body parts being sucked on in public no matter what sex. So now the double standard is shown. Women can do it but men can't. Hmmm

"....I have an automatic disdain when it comes to men telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies insofar as female-only issues are concerned...."

Again, it's a men vs women thing. You're reaching Steve. But your basic statement, I agree with

"...offended by the sight of a mother breastfeeding her child. Such a sight has always been considered natural, healthy and even holy...."

Then how come it's illegal many places, or has been until recently? (oh yah except for the more "progressive" places.)

"...Witness the Mother and Child paintings and icons in churches and cathedrals in many countries...."

I don't think I can remember ever seeing a religious painting that explicitly illustrated a naked breast being sucked on. Can you give an example? Maybe eluded to but not graphically

There's a time and place for everything. There's modesty to consider and appropriate action in appropriate places. If I'm out for dinner at a nice restaurant I do not want to see tits unless it's a topless bar and I'm there on purpose
Lets see.. maybe if I'm at a nice restaurant I should be able to stand up and rip off a great big fart. Hey it's perfectly natual. Everybody does it. Is that ok? Don't like it? Plug your ears and don't sniff. Is that inappropriate behavior at an eating establishment? Why

 |  IP: Logged

Sam Hunter
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 779
From: West Monroe, LA, USA
Registered: Jan 2002


 - posted 10-22-2003 07:55 PM      Profile for Sam Hunter   Email Sam Hunter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Whoops! Wrong room.
leaving now. [Big Grin]

 |  IP: Logged

Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 10-22-2003 09:32 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Now I know why I like titty movies I was bottle fed
maybe I should sue for depravation [Big Grin]

 |  IP: Logged

Jason Black
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1723
From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 10-22-2003 10:09 PM      Profile for Jason Black   Author's Homepage   Email Jason Black   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gerard,

You made mention of breast feeding in a restaurant requiring a coat and tie. I, for one, would be quite aggravated indeed if someone had the nerve to bring a child small enough to be breast fed into such an eatery. I equate that to bringing a 6 month old to the theatre. Hire a babysitter or cook at home! I don't care to hear your whining child and I'd wager a bet that I wouldn't be the only one.

PS.. I don't really care for open breast feeding in public either. Covered up with a scarf, etc.. is fine with me.. bare breats out for all to see.. nope, don't care for that..

 |  IP: Logged

Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 10-22-2003 10:29 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually last year the supreme court ruled that since the law didn't restrict men from going topless then they could be no legal penalty for females to go topless and as such if a woman wants to walk around topless go for it [Big Grin]

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)
This topic comprises 5 pages: 1  2  3  4  5 
 
   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2020 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.