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Author Topic: Bike crash in Northern MN Josh Jones Redhat Posts: 1207 From: Plano, TX Registered: Apr 2000 posted 04-30-2006 11:17 PM                        Just because I dont want to walk around in black leather all day and go putting around from bar to bar does not mean I dont own a real bike. My focus right now is track riding, and for that, the best tool is a japanese sport bike. at least I dont have to have a friend following me with a dustpan to catch all the parts that fall off a "quality american motorcycle" Even then, I'd own a Yamaha  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 05-01-2006 12:30 AM                     I like that shade of green! Get well soon my friend.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-01-2006 07:27 AM                        Get better, Josh, and be careful!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-01-2006 10:20 AM                     quote: Josh Jones Even then, I'd own a Yamaha Funny, My first bike was an 86 FZ-600. Fast.... but a piece of crap! PLastic fairings that cracked in a new place everyy time you removed and replaced it, carburator problems till no tommrrow.... I'll take an American bike any day over any rice burner. quote: Josh Jones at least I dont have to have a friend following me with a dustpan to catch all the parts that fall off a "quality american motorcycle" I'm sure Paul would have disagreed with that statement.... He probably woulda kicked you in the ass too . My 93 Harley has given me zero problems. You can create what ever image you want to on any bike . Mark  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 05-01-2006 11:10 AM                     "Knowing nothing about bikes, is that damage really unrepairable?" Well, unrepairable no. But it is probably a writeoff - meaning the repair cost exceeds the insurance value. The bodywork isn't cheap. The instruments cost a bunch, the front fork legs are probably bent - $$$, frame may be bent - $$$$$$$$$. The best (of a bad bunch) accident for repairability is being rear ended by a car... most crashes are just like this one, so those front end parts are impossible to get at a wrecker; rear end parts are very common. The engine is usually OK, a crash bad enough to break the engine apart is unlikely to leave a live rider looking to fix the bike.  |  IP: Logged Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 05-01-2006 12:30 PM                     Around 30% of Harley Davidson parts are made in Taiwan. They are not "all american". If you want an American bike, buy a Victory by Polaris. They are made here in the midwest.  |  IP: Logged Josh Jones Redhat Posts: 1207 From: Plano, TX Registered: Apr 2000 posted 05-01-2006 01:22 PM                        Actually Paul would have agreed with me. He owned an electroglide or two, and could attest to most of my comments. I am rather surprised you'd take an ancient machine,by modern sportbike standards at least, and compare it to modern racer replica technology. Contrary to your experiences, my bike is fuel injected, always starts, and the fairings always went back together the way they came off. it doesnt leak, its confortable, and it was a hell of a lot less than a Harley. That being said I should also say that I dont have anything really against Harleys or the people that ride them, except for a small percentage that feel they are the only ones that belong on two wheels and that they are a breed apart. I have no time for these "Rolex Riders". I ride in the rain, in the wind, and in the cold. I ride on the street, on the track, and on the highway. I am not a fair weather rider. Sportbike and track riding is my hobby, I have invested a good amount of money in safety gear for myself and the machine. So say what you will. I like my rice burner, and in the future I will likely buy another one. If your idea of fun is hitting up the country roads on your full dress on a sunday afternoon thats fine. I'll be the one blasting past you and dragging knee through the next corner. My idea of fun these days is flying through chicanes leaned over hard on the brakes, feeling the suspension squat through the apex of the next turn. So if you need me, I'll be in the garage, spinning wrenches...  |  IP: Logged Luciano Brigite Master Film Handler Posts: 277 From: Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Registered: Jan 2002 posted 05-01-2006 07:14 PM                     After seeing the pictures of your bike, I say you're lucky in having only a broken shoulder and a vertebre.. Seems you did choose your safety gear quite well.. While I worked ina theatre chain some years ago wasn'tr uncommon to get a call on hte booth phone to go start another theatre because the projectionest didn't show up due to a bike accident,usually they showed up a week later full of bandages and stuff to help 'em walk around.Also had a relative involved inna accided and staying at home for at least 4 months full of pins in his leg. definatly not good.. Good to hear surgery went well and you're ok ! take easy on things for a while until you recover fully  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-01-2006 07:58 PM                        I don't know a lot about motorcycles, but perhaps someone could explain the purpose of the triangular humps on the backs of the rider's jacket? I've noticed this hump on the professional riders who are in the videogames I play as well, so it must serve a purpose. Also what is the purpose of dragging knee and how do you keep it from getting skinned all to hell?  |  IP: Logged Chris Hipp Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1462 From: Mesquite, Tx (east of Dallas) Registered: Jul 2003 posted 05-01-2006 08:26 PM                     The humps are back protectors and I believe some of them are so high for aerodynamic purposes. quote: Josh Jones That being said I should also say that I dont have anything really against Harleys or the people that ride them, except for a small percentage that feel they are the only ones that belong on two wheels and that they are a breed apart. I have no time for these "Rolex Riders". Couldn't agree more. I think newer harleys are decent bikes but WAY overpriced. If I won one in a contest or something I would sell it and buy me a japenese cruiser, a sportbike and a dirtbike, and probably still have some left over.  |  IP: Logged Josh Jones Redhat Posts: 1207 From: Plano, TX Registered: Apr 2000 posted 05-01-2006 09:14 PM                        "Dragging a knee" is a technique used by track riders to carry more corner speed. If you sit perfectly vertical on the bike and try to round a corner at high speed, there is a good chance you will lean the bike over to the point where you start dragging hard parts of the motorcycle, footpegs and the like. This is not desirable! There is also a good chance you will lean right off the edge of the tire. So by leaning off of the bike, you shift the center of gravity of the machine, thus lessening the degree of lean angle the bike has to do to make the corner. As a result, you can carry more speed through the corner and go faster on the track. If you look at pictures of leather racing suits you will notice slider or knee pucks. The cheaper ones are made of plastic, most racers use pucks made out of ceramic composities because they last longer. Another reason to stick out a knee is to gauge lean angle. By doing this you can gauge how far you are leaned over, and ultimately how much lean you have left, and how much faster you can go through the turn. The pro guys like Ben Spies in AMA racing sometimes have to worry about dragging their elbows through corners! Now thats some lean angle. As stated by others, Helmet Humps serve mostly aerodynamic purposes by smoothing off the turbulent mass of air leaving the back of the helmet, thus reducing drag on the riders head and neck. It is also theoretically serving as a crash protection by limiting the amount of backward travel the head is allowed to do. JJ  |  IP: Logged Don Anderson Master Film Handler Posts: 312 From: West Bend, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-02-2006 10:25 PM                     Josh, you are lucky to be alive after the accident. Ouch!!! Hopefully, you were wearing a good helmet and didn't mess up that pretty mug of yers!!! I have a buddy that used to race professionally at Elkhart Lake here in Wisconsin (I think that's the name of it)He's been racing professionally since he was 18, he's now 49, and gave it up two years ago. So, you've got a lot of years ahead of ya to race...just....ummmm....stay on the road. Hope ya have a speedy recovery. Physical therapy suxs ass.  |  IP: Logged Josh Jones Redhat Posts: 1207 From: Plano, TX Registered: Apr 2000 posted 05-03-2006 01:03 AM                        Thanks for all the well wishes guys. It does do a lot more good to do that than saying "I told ya so.." It's too bad, I joined NESBA just so I could ride Road America in June, a few days before the AMA's. I still may ride out there in august, if the bike is finished by then and if I can ride. Time will tell... JJ  |  IP: Logged Don Anderson Master Film Handler Posts: 312 From: West Bend, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-04-2006 12:00 AM                     Josh, let me know if ya do make it up to RoadAmerica in August. I'm about 45-60 minutes away. You are more than welcome to "crash".......ummmmm bad choice of words.....how about "stay here". I've got a spare bedroom in the duplex and a garage for the bike. Or drive down and check out our theatre in West Bend!  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-04-2006 12:35 AM                  Josh, let me see if I understand Don's posts: 1st he thinks you have a "pretty mug"...I don't think he's referring to your coffee cup. 2nd, he's inviting you to spend the night at his place... hmmmmmm I'd be real careful Josh.... (Sorry Don, I couldn't resist!)  |  IP: Logged

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