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Author Topic: Upload your random pictures (part 3) Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 03-14-2010 01:58 AM                    quote: Joe Redifer Looks very layered... like sheets of paper at different z-spaces. No true depth. Why are they even bothering? Due to the small size scaling, which besides compressing the x and y size of the pictures also compresses the z, it looks more cutout than it does in "real life" large screen. Having said that, it still has a lot of a cut-out look. After all, they *are* 2D cartoons and Disney's process was to create 2D depth maps mostly to make the objects rounded instead of mapping to 3D geometry like others do.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-14-2010 11:04 AM                        Just goes to show, you can't make a 3D purse out of a 2D pig's ear. colorized B&W= 3Dized 2D = BTW, I love crosseyed 3D pairs. It's so cool because no matter how much she tries, my lady can't make her eyes do it, & she gets really pissed at me when I tell her "Come on, everyone can do it, you're just not trying hard enough"....then I give a slight giggle. She get's REALLY pissed.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-14-2010 12:47 PM                     Even Steve can enjoy platters now!  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-14-2010 01:12 PM                     That is my idea a great platter...covered  |  IP: Logged Hillary Charles Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 748 From: York, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 03-14-2010 01:38 PM                     quote: Ian Parfrey Multi-plane does it so much better without the fake "paper cut-out" look. How can that be, when the Multiplane used layers of flat artwork? Looks about the same to me, except the characters faces and such are showing a different relief than their bodies. Now compared to the Fleischer Studios revolving 3D backgrounds...  |  IP: Logged Ian Parfrey Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1049 From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E Registered: Feb 2009 posted 03-14-2010 03:10 PM                     quote: Hillary Charles How can that be, when the Multiplane used layers of flat artwork? I guess, to my eyes, it has to do with those very subtle hints that prove the shot has REAL depth, and not just an artificial approximation. That probably sounds like a weird statement considering the point is being made about an animated piece/s of artwork under glass, but the whole point of multi-plane was to give the image some depth. When the camera operator pulls focus from one level to the next, it's those subtle clues that PROVE the shot is real and not an artificial approximation. The same thing can be said for panning shots as well- those different "travel-rates" of the layers give, again very subtle hints, that the shot is real even though it's animation. Granted, multi-plane doe shave a very "layered" look to it, but it does not purport to be "3D" where it isn't. I guess my point is that if the producers insist on post-3Ding previously made films, then don't give us images that look like multi-plane with infinite depth of focus as per Julio's example. Again, this is where I find that multi-plane does a far better job of giving a more believable impression of actual depth when compared to a 3D-ised version.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-15-2010 08:00 PM                     Sometimes I find things slightly amiss when I come on for my closing shift, but this one looks like it took some effort. He told me as he left that something was wrong with the platter ring. What I don't understand is why he didn't simply use one of the other two rings we have which do not have the locking pin. I'm starting to loose hair over things like this.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-15-2010 08:37 PM                        Why would a platter ring like that have a locking pin in the first place?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-15-2010 10:38 PM                     So during breakdown the ring won't collapse slightly, which causes cinch scratches. That's why we always stuck a dts case in the ring on the last show if you recall.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-16-2010 12:03 AM                        I don't recall. EDIT: Well maybe vaguely. That was like 20 years ago.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-17-2010 02:56 PM                     So true...  |  IP: Logged Ian Parfrey Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1049 From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E Registered: Feb 2009 posted 03-22-2010 04:34 AM                      |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-23-2010 03:47 PM                      |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-23-2010 03:54 PM                  John, you ASS! That's too funny! Thanks for the laugh my friend!  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-23-2010 04:00 PM                     HHhhot, Phil!  |  IP: Logged

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