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Michael Coate
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Something to consider for those of you who think James Cameron's "Avatar" will win Best Picture...

A good indicator a movie nominated for Best Picture will not win the top prize is when its screenplay was not nominated. Best Picture nominee "Avatar" was not nominated in either screenplay category, and in the 80-odd years of the Oscars the number of times a film won Best Picture without its screenplay even being nominated can be counted on one hand.

So when was the last time a movie won Best Picture without its script getting a nomination? The answer: twelve years ago for "Titanic"... ironically, written and directed by "Avatar's" James Cameron.

To give you an idea of how rare it is for a film to not get a screenplay nom but end up winning Best Picture, prior to the win by "Titanic" we have to go back all the way to 1965's "The Sound Of Music."

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Are you saying AVATAR has a chance of winning best picture, Michael? [Smile] I do not mind it did win because I enjoyed the movie very much. I will be rooting for it!

-Claude

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Mike Blakesley
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Actually I'll be rooting for it NOT to win. It has very cool effects and is a groundbreaking movie, but that doesn't make it "best picture" material. Blockbuster or not, many agree that it has a derivative story, poor writing and crappy acting.

Not that the Academy has always given "Best Picture" to the real best picture...in fact that's probably happened in the minority of times!

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Joe Redifer
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I really really hope Hurt Locker doesn't win, which it probably will. It's either that or Avatar. I don't foresee anything else having a chance. Not that I think Avatar should win, mind you. Maybe UP will win both Best Picture™ and Best Animated Picture™. It can't win Best Picture without being the best animated film as well, that's a paradox.

I am also happy that they will not be performing the time-wasting renditions of each song nominated. Now if only they could get rid of the foreign film, best gaffer and all of the other useless awards, it would go much more smoothly.

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Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
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Is there actually a best gaffer category? Now, if that was televised, I'd watch for sure. Or, if we got into more obscure crew jobs, like Best Lead Canadian Puppeteer (although I've only ever seen one person credited as a lead Canadian puppeteer, in AVP2: Requiem [2007]). Sounds like a cool job, though.

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Anslem Rayburn
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quote: Bobby Henderson
Overall The Hurt Locker is being marketed as a "this is what the war is like for our troops over there" kind of thing.
Actually, I submit that it's being marketed as a way for US to feel what it was like over there. It's a subtle difference, but it IS a difference. The goal of the movie is not to recreate the environment, but to make us non-military people understand what it feels like to be there.

I submit it accomplishes that.

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Michael Coate
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quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
Are you saying AVATAR has a chance of winning best picture, Michael?
I'm saying that if one is the betting type and wishes to win their office or Oscar Party pool, then, statistically, the safe bet is to pick THE HURT LOCKER for Best Picture (and its director Kathryn Bigelow for Best Director).

Of course, AVATAR can win, but I'm just saying the odds are that it won't based on the stats I provided. But...things have gotten interesting in this past week since one of THE HURT LOCKER's producers got caught violating an Oscar rule by sending out a mass email encouraging Academy voters not to vote for AVATAR. The producer was subsequently banned from attending the awards show and, if a winner, from receiving the award.

Of course, this type of nastiness/lobbying is normal, and in the case of AVATAR vs THE HURT LOCKER, it's even more interesting since the directors of each used to be married, so, naturally, they're rooting for the other not to win.

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Mark Lensenmayer
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Shifting to prediction mode, I have little interest in the awards this year. There are only a few categories I really feel passionate about.

I just can't see how Christoph Waltz can lose best supporting actor. The opening scene of INGLORIOUS BASTERDS was one of the most riveting of the year. Not just for Tarrentino's dialogue, but his commanding manor.

Best actor should be to Jeff Bridges. Great performance in a very very good picture.

I love PIXAR films, but best animated last year was FANTASTIC MR. FOX.

I have seen all of the animated shorts, and one stands out. In fact, it may have truly been the best picture of the year. A MATTER OF LOAF AND DEATH is another wonderful Wallace & Grommit picture. It is witty, clever, well written, and Grommit remains the best character even though he says nothing. Great work by Nick Park.

Best Picture...anything but AVATAR.

As for the rest, I really don't care. Not even sure I'll watch it or not, but the hosts this year might make it interesting. We'll know in the first few minutes if it will be good or not.

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Mark Ogden
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Fantastic Mister Fox was a great movie, and I hope the animation Oscar goes to either that, or Coraline or The Secret of Kells, which were both equally as good. Up just didn't make it for me, the first ten minutes or so were very good, and then it sort of devolved into a typical action-chase-bad-guy thing. Boring, but I bet it wins. I've seen 100% of Pixar's output since Luxo, Jr., and I wish they would try to do something more challenging and adult oriented like the three I mentioned above.

I went to a screening of all the animated and live-action shorts this last Sunday. I thought the Wallace and Grommit was not good as their earlier stuff, but The Lady and the Reaper was both my favorite and the audiences, both moving and screamingly funny at the same time. Logorama was a hoot too.

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Joe Redifer
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I haven't even seen a single frame of "Fantastic Mr. Fox". I don't even have any idea what it even is. I bet Morgan Freeman has something to do with it, based on the title. I have no idea why I think that. Coraline was kind of stupid. It didn't even have a consistent framerate and was often jerky.

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John Wilson
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quote:
Fantastic Mister Fox was a great movie, and I hope the animation Oscar goes to either that, or Coraline or The Secret of Kells, which were both equally as good.
How can these films even be rated as a chance when the fifth animated film 'UP' has been nominated 'Best Picture'? It really shows just why the Best Animated Film category is useless.

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Martin McCaffery
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Just remember: The Oscars don't make sense and there is no way to make sense out of them since the numbers are never released.

Avatar has a 1 in 10 chance of winning and can do so with 10%+1 of the vote. Mr Fox has slightly longer odds, but can also win with a plurality.

The biggest scam Hollywood has ever gotten away with is the idea that the Awards have meaning.

[edit] Forgot this year they changed the rules and the vote for Best Picture is weighted. Not sure what that does to the odds, and since they don't release the numbers it doesn't change the overall point.

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John Wilson
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So, the show starts in around 2.5 hrs...here's my take...

Best Picture - “Avatar” James Cameron and Jon Landau, Producers
Best Director - Kathryn Bigelow “The Hurt Locker”
Best Actor - Jeff Bridges in “Crazy Heart”
Best Actress - Sandra Bullock in “The Blind Side”
Best Supporting Actor - Christoph Waltz in “Inglourious Basterds”
Best Supporting Actress - Mo’Nique in “Precious"

We'll see, eh?

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Ian Parfrey
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Ok John, I'll see you and raise this....

Best Picture - “Hurt Locker"
Best Director - Kathryn Bigelow “The Hurt Locker”
Best Actor - Morgan Freeman "Invictus"
Best Actress - Helen Mirren "The Last Station"
Best Supporting Actor - Christoph Waltz in “Inglourious Basterds”
Best Supporting Actress - Maggie Gyllenhaal "Crazy Heart"
Best Animation - The Princess and the Frog

and let's do some long distance crystal ball gazing...

Best Picture in the History of the Oscars 2011 - TRON LEGACY

[beer]

P.S Best Picture - "Avatar" [Confused] ...never heard of it.

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Joe Redifer
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quote: John Wilson
Best Supporting Actress - Mo’Nique in “Precious"
You have the title wrong. There is no currently nominated movie in any category called "Precious". There is one with a similar title, however. It is called "Precious based on the novel Push by Sapphire". Maybe this is the movie you were thinking of? This movie has a lot going for it, otherwise it wouldn't be associated with so many people with just one name. Mo'nique, Sapphire, etc. I think it was directed by McG.

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