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Author Topic: "Classic" movies you hate...and why Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 07-06-2010 09:13 AM                     It was the opposite with the film; a couple of scenes were longer, and I think there was one extra scene in the American print which I saw. The extra material wasn't violent, it was more political, but I can't remember exactly what it was now.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-06-2010 12:57 PM                        JULES AND JIM. Gag me with a spoon. Had absolutely no emotional or intellectual connection for me. None, unless you can say bored to tears is a connection. Who cares about these people? Just typing the title I feel asleep. Both GWTW and THE TEN COMMANDMENTS bore me to death except for the spurts of laughter at the stilted, dumbass dialog and laughable acting style (was there any director on the set of these pictures screaming, "All of you, STOP OVER-ACTING!). BUT, and it's a big but, in spite of being unimpressed with them, I did LOVE running them. Because the BEST thing in both these films are the great, powerful scores. And the thrill a projectionist gets doing the Intermission "rubric." In a perfect world, I could run the opening reel, the reels before and after the intermission and the last reel, and let some other poor slob run all the other reels in between, or, do the audience a favor and just skip them altogether. 2001 -- incredible; AND the one thing I would disagree -- you SHOULDN'T read the book. It is much more etherial if you can let your imagination run with the unanswered questions, because Kubrick gives you enough that it will make sense based on your own interpretation of what you are seeing and what your imagination brings to the film. How he could make such a "personal" statment and yet with such an epic scale. An incredible acheivement. But I do respect those who give it two yawns, although I don't understand it. I guess it's just not everyone's cup of tea.  |  IP: Logged Pravin Ratnam Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 844 From: Atlanta, GA,USA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 07-07-2010 08:42 AM                     I hated Mary Poppins even when I was a kid. I hate Chicago, Julia, and Out of Africa . Why? Because they were boring as hell(except for Chicago where my intolerance for those kind of musicals took over). Bonnie And Clyde: parts of it I can still appreciate. But like Bullit, I guess you had to watch it back then to appreciate it. I find parts of Beatty's acting laughable. Love Citizen Kane even now. Springsteen should watch it so that he wont keep forcefeeding us Patty Scialfa in his concerts. The second half of American in Paris was pure pretentious boring crap. It's is like that boring ballet thing in Singing in Rain(which I like) stretched out to an hour. I don't get Caddyshack. It was OK fun, but I don't get the whole classic comedy vibe from it compared to other comedies made in that era. I don't hate American Graffiti either, but I don't love it. I guess it was for the 60s generation what Fast Times at Ridgemont High was for mine.  |  IP: Logged Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-07-2010 09:04 AM                     I could think of a bunch of titles but I saw that someone mentioned Jerry Maguire earlier in the thread. Boy, was that a piece of garbage film and a waste of time! Everyone I knew raved about it and I thought it sucked beyond belief. It was stupid, pointless and just plain weird. I have never seen many of the "classics" that many of you are referring to like GWTW, Citizen Kane and the others, but I did want to see them because of all the hype. I am rethinking that now. I still have not seen Avatar even though we have tried to see it twice without success. The trailer seems very boring and uninteresting to me and I only want to see it since everyone raves about it and it made so much money last year. I have a feeling I am going to be let down. My tastes seem to run with the dumb comedy movies. I can watch Old School, Wedding Crashers and Joe Dirt all day long. They have great lines to repeat and I like most of the actors in them. I know they are kind of dumb but at least they have funny parts. On the flip side, I can't sit through anymore remakes, action or drama films. They bore me and they have all been done before.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-07-2010 10:07 AM                        quote: Pravin Ratnam I don't hate American Graffiti either, but I don't love it. I guess it was for the 60s generation what Fast Times at Ridgemont High was for mine. I love both of those movies -- I'm from the generation between the two. Graffiti has the better story, but Fast Times has Jeff Spicoli, Mr. Hand, Jennifer Jason Leigh and Phoebe Cates. So if I had to pick a desert island movie, I'd have to go with that one.  |  IP: Logged Robert Minichino Master Film Handler Posts: 350 From: Haskell, NJ, USA Registered: Dec 2005 posted 07-07-2010 10:15 AM                        I like most of the classic movies mentioned here, but I must pile on with two of them. First, I can't sit through the second half of GWTW, and I'm not entirely enraptured by the first half, either. I think it could be an excellent 90 minute movie (two hours if I'm feeling generous). Then moving on from mere indifference, I could also be found with Martin rooting for the Nazis (or at least against the von Trapps) in The Sound of Music. I used to be ashamed of the latter, but the more I mention it, the more I find people that agree.  |  IP: Logged Sam Graham AKA: "The Evil Sam Graham". Wackiness ensues. Posts: 1431 From: Waukee, IA Registered: Dec 2004 posted 07-07-2010 10:33 AM                        If I remember correctly, "American Graffiti" was the first DVD I purchased. I'll buy it again on Blu-ray too. I am a fan of "A Clockwork Orange", don't think it's funny it any way, and am not a pothead. I think the thing that sticks with me is the presentation...the style, the visuals. It's a pedestrian political "mind control" storyline told in a very over-the-top way. For my entry, I'm going to choose "It's A Wonderful Life". Fucking sappy bunch of nonsense that it is.  |  IP: Logged Pravin Ratnam Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 844 From: Atlanta, GA,USA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 07-07-2010 10:46 AM                     I remember falling asleep around the 20 min mark for 2001 the first few times I tried watching it on tv. Then one late night recently, I watched the entire movie. And I actually kind of liked it. Maybe it's one of those movies that you just have to catch at the right time. Some movies are only meant to be watchd when you are either high or at 4 in the morning in a certain state of mind. I will say this. 2001 is definitely a movie to be watched solo instead of with a crowd. I noticed that whenever I watch a slow movie with a crowd, we all tend to get very impatient. Mad Max : as someone who LOVES Road Warrior and has watched that so many times, I find Mad Max to be kind of a disappointment. The movie just doesn't seem to get into that high geat at any point. I saw Remo Williams last year and found it to be an outdated hokey movie.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 07-07-2010 12:43 PM                        For me, 2001 becomes a huge waste of time when trying to watch it on any video format. Even on 35mm the film looses a lot of its impact. If you haven't seen 2001 in at least 70mm (preferably on a Cinerama screen) you really haven't seen it. The film truly needs and uses every square inch of a giant screen and every last line-pair of resolution available from 65mm origination. Kubrick composed and edited it for a very large screen, lingering on many shots to give the audience time to take in all the details in those beautiful wide images. Sorta like IMAX, another group of films that have their own rules for composition and editing; a whole group of films that generally don't work well on anything less than an IMAX-sized screen. To a lesser extent, all of those spectacular roadshow event films suffer on a small low-def screen (yes, even 1920x1080p is "low-def" here). Many of the titles you guys are dissing here fit into that category. They were all meant to be seen in a theater - no thought was given at all to how they'd look or sound on video. Sadly for a lot of you, video is probably the only way you've seen most of these titles. Do yourselves a favor and figure out a way to see any of these titles as they were meant to be seen. Video copies of any of these kinds of films are a waste of time. At best, video, even HD video, is a thumbnail.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 07-07-2010 01:15 PM                    2001 is good once you get past the ape shit beginning. I know the whole scene serves a point to the movie but after seeing it once it doesn't bother me skipping over it.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-07-2010 01:35 PM                        Full Metal Jacket -- I was riveted by the first half of the movie but once they got out of basic training, it just lost me. I probably need to make more of an effort to really watch it again, but that first half...wow.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 07-07-2010 01:51 PM                    Mike, one of us is getting old because I find myself agreeing with you more often. Full Metal Jacket's first half was awesome. The second half... I don't even remember what happens.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-07-2010 04:16 PM                     Really? What is your major malfunction?  |  IP: Logged Pravin Ratnam Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 844 From: Atlanta, GA,USA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 07-07-2010 04:59 PM                     I like the second half of FMJ too. The problem is you lose the best character at the end of the first half. Still, the second half gave us enough classic lines, one of which helped make a 2 Live Crew rap a major hit. I saw 2001 in HD on a 60 inch screen. You are right. Even that is too small to appreciate the ambience of this movie. Problem is I don't think I can sit in a movie theater to watch the entire movie. It is that slow. I can't get into Barry Lyndon. Admittedly, I gave up on it too soon. Plus, I have an allergy to anything by Ryan O Neil or Barbara Streisand or Julie Andrews. I find Robert Redford to be overrated. Love Story - blech. I like the Odd Couple TV show better than the movie. Dr Zhivago. cant get into it. Fiddler on the Roof. Cant get into that either.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-07-2010 07:49 PM                     quote: Pravin Ratnam I have an allergy to anything by Ryan O Neil or Barbara Streisand Unfortunately then, you'll never know the brilliance of 'What's Up Doc?'.  |  IP: Logged

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