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Steve Guttag
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And I note that the "freak" comment just sailed though!

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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Phil was distracted by my tirade in the SRD vs DTS dropout rate thread. [Big Grin]

I agree that Chariots of Fire was a huge bore..and a real pain in the ass to run as there was dialogue through EVERY reel change! (of course being a professional I hit every one spot on. [Smile] )

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Victor Liorentas
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I tried to watch Chariots Of Fire and i think i left after a few minutes but may have fell asleep and dreamt i got up and left!
I only remember how grainy and dull it looked! This theater had a old xenon with a old Kollmorgan coke bottle magnocom to be fair!

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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Victor, it wasn't the lenses or lamps..it WAS dull and grainy. [Big Grin]

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Ron Curran
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I like 2001 and Gone With The Wind.
However, I was bored with Visconti’s The Leopard. Definitely not my kind of cat.
The damn thing came back to bite me when it was the Sunday night feature of a Travelling Film Festival.
We were running reel to reel and, every time I laced up the last reel in the trunk, another trunk seemed to appear. Talk about nine lives! By the time it finished there were just a handful of pretentious festival followers left. It was way past everyone’s bedtime, including mine.

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John Wilson
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quote: Bobby Henderson

Reds - couldn't get into it. Chariots of Fire - bored. and that means Raiders of the Lost Ark should have won the 1981 Best Picture Oscar.

quote: Michael Coate

For once, Bobby and I are in agreement.

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Michael Brown
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I've just sat down and watched Close Encounters of The Third Kind for the first time. What a load of junk. It's too long. (mind you it's only a little over 2 hours but felt like it was longer than 3). It's too slow, the effects are cheesy. It's the worst of the Spielberg films i've seen.

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Michael Coate
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quote: Michael Brown
I've just sat down and watched Close Encounters of The Third Kind for the first time. What a load of junk.
To appreciate it, I guess you had to have seen it in 1977-78, in a theater, when it was new.

quote: Michael Brown
It's too long. (mind you it's only a little over 2 hours but felt like it was longer than 3). It's too slow
Lemme guess, you enjoy the pacing of the work of Michael Bay?

quote: Michael Brown
the effects are cheesy.
And thirty years from now, we'll all be thinking the effects in TRANSFORMERS and THE LORD OF THE RINGS look cheesy. Did you hate the music and cinematography, too?

quote: Michael Brown
It's the worst of the Spielberg films i've seen.
I take it you've not seen ALWAYS, 1941, or THE LOST WORLD?

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Now it's my turn... HIGHLANDER (1986). Why do so many people love this movie??? (I'm assuming, of course, that it qualifies as a classic. Hard to believe, but it's almost twenty-five years old.)

I've seen HIGHLANDER several times -- every few years I give it another try thinking that maybe I wasn't in the right mood or frame of mind when I last viewed it, and yet each new time I see it I dislike it. In short, I think it's a mediocre movie and I'm baffled by its appeal. Nor do I grasp how it could be popular enough to inspire a long-running series of movies and a TV series. Or how Christopher Lambert is treated like a god is some circles.

Can someone who likes HIGHLANDER please explain to me what is so great about it.

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Bobby Henderson
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I don't think 1941 has aged very well. I tried watching it a few weeks ago when it aired on one of the cable channels (HD Net Movies I think). I just couldn't get through it.

Jaws and Close Encounters still hold up well for me -I think the 2-disc Blu-ray of CETK is pretty awesome even though quite a few viewers dislike all the visible grain.

While I consider Close Encounters a ground-breaking movie, it is also very much a movie of the 1970s. Film-making conventions, incorporations of pop culture and other factors will do much to make any successful movie seem really dated once a couple decades pass. Newcomers to a "classic" may not understand why it was such a big deal. Sort of have to be there at the time when the movie was first released to really get it.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Michael Coate
ALWAYS, 1941, or THE LOST WORLD
Ya, those were pretty bad (I didn't see "The Lost World", so can't say anything on that one..)... but "1941" got way too carried away with obnoxious slapstick. I wondered on why Spielberg made this one, but a good director has to make some stinkers once in a while. "Always", put my wife to sleep while watching it and I was getting pretty bored with it.

The original 1977 issue of "CE3K" (in which "SW:EP-IV" was still embedded in everybody's mind) since it came out in December of that year, was better than the re-release "Special Editon" issue a couple of years later since the re-release took out some scenes from the original and added new ones which weakened the movie some..

quote: Michael Coate
who likes HIGHLANDER please explain to me...
IMO, it was the interaction between Lambert (Connor Macleod) and Connery(Juan Sanchez Villa-Lobos Ramirez), his teacher, plus the bit of magic (and romantic drama since it deals with being stuck in bein immortal to face the final battle 600 years after the inital, thus, one could feel for the character that Lambert portrayed) that the movie contained.

Course, this was also 1986 and this was a first one of a kind movie to be released - the "Titanic" of the '80's even though, that same year was that "Titanic" release, being "Top Gun" which make Tommy Cruise's prior movie "Legend" quickly forgettable.

(but I did like "Legend" as well...)

-Monte

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Bobby Henderson
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The nice thing about the Blu-ray of CE3K is you can watch whatever cut you prefer (original theatrical version, special edition or director's cut via seamless branching).

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Rick Raskin
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TCM showed 2001 yesterday and I have to admit I found it boring. I never thought I'd say that but I found many of the sequences over long and unnecessarily drawn out.

I still think it is the best Sc-Fi film ever made but it could definitely benefit from from some re-cutting. Sorry to all you purists out there but that is just the way I see it.

It was a blast running it in 70mm, especially the 9th reel with the light show, but even that sequence was overplayed.

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Hillary Charles
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A few years ago, I showed 1941 to a couple of co-workers for our "lunchtime matinee," and it went over incredibly well. One said, "I can't believe I never watched this before!" He thought by the title that it was a war drama and didn't give it any further thought.

I guess I should put this one in the other thread since I appear to be the only one who likes it. [uhoh]

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Chris Slycord
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Whatever you say about 1941... its March is awesome and arguably the best that John Williams ever made.

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Bobby Henderson
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John Williams' march theme from 1941 was awesome. I can't say it's my favorite tune of his work, but saw a kick ass live performance of it back in my high school days. The Marine Corps Band and Marine Drum & Bugle Corps performed the march theme during a show at the Commandant's residence at 8th and I in Washington, D.C. The Marine Corps Silent Drill Team also performed.

With the kind of twisted sense of humor many Marines have, the march theme from 1941 fits perfectly.

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