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Mike Blakesley
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the theater management should have been on notice that criminal activity has occurred in the area and they knew or should have known that an incident in their theater was likely,
There is potential for "criminal activity" in ANY area all the time! That's the only thing the crooks have going for them...the element of surprise.

How "likely" is it that a crime is going to occur in one dark auditorium in a big multiplex in a big city? About a million to one, or less. How is management supposed to "be aware" of that?

Of course, I guess it's just as likely some goon will shoot up a movie theater as it is a terrorist will try to carry a bomb onto a plane. So I guess we'd better equip every movie theater -- wait, make that every stadium, mall, school, fairground, or any other public gathering space in the U.S. with TSA-types, not to stop crimes so muchg, but to avoid the frivolous lawsuits.

Look on the bright side...it'll create lots of jobs in the security industry. [Roll Eyes]

But seriously, all it would take to prevent this same kind of thing happening would be to equip the back exit with an alarm (and maybe a camera), and only allow people to use that exit in an emergency.

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Louis Bornwasser
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The insurance company will probably agree to "insured limits" and that will be about it. Cheaper than litigation. . . and they keep the Cinemark national account. Louis

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Frank Cox
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How do you stop people from using an exit? Even if it's marked "Emergency exit only", I'm sure someone will open the door to leave after the show and as soon as it's open the other fifty people behind him will go out that way too.

Earlier this summer I had a new sidewalk poured just outside of my fire exit door and I had to get someone to sit in the front row beside that door before, during and after that night's show to intercept anyone heading toward that door and tell them to go out the other way. But I wouldn't want to have to do that every night.

(In a real emergency that door was still usable; it would have just damaged the new cement outside.)

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Jonathan M. Crist
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quote: Louis Bornwasser
The insurance company will probably agree to "insured limits" and that will be about it.
That would assume that Cinemark has insurance coverage. Many large companies are 'self insured'.

Even if there is an insurance policy, the aggregate limit is probably not going to be sufficent to cover all
claims ... in which case if the insurance company decides to throw in their limits and get out from under the defense of all those claims it will most probably end up paying their limits into court and let the Plaintiffs (and their lawyers) fight amongst themselves (for that portion of the pie).

Given that Cinemark is a large public company in a ca$h business, I dont see all the lawyers here just walking away with a nominal settlement amount.

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Chad Souder
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If I were a victim, I would sue for Cinemark putting the stupid "no weapons allowed" sign up. You are in effect entering a contract with your customers that no weapons will be present, therefore you don't need to worry about defending yourself. Weapons present -> contract breached -> lawsuit. Sounds legal, right?

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