Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE


  
my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Community   » Film-Yak   » The Master (2012) 70mm prints? (Page 4)

 
This topic comprises 7 pages: 1  2  3  4  5  6  7 
 
Author Topic: The Master (2012) 70mm prints?
Eric Carter
Film Handler

Posts: 13
From: Redmond, WA, USA
Registered: Aug 2002


 - posted 09-01-2012 04:39 PM      Profile for Eric Carter   Email Eric Carter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
THE MASTER will play at the Ziegfeld in New York in 70mm.

 |  IP: Logged

Michael Marini
Film Handler

Posts: 27
From: issue maryland/ USA
Registered: Dec 2005


 - posted 09-04-2012 06:06 PM      Profile for Michael Marini   Email Michael Marini   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
User Reviews

The Master in action.
8 August 2012 | by stingil (Los Angeles USA) – See all my reviews
I was fortunate enough to see this film much earlier than most. To me it seems like Anderson is really hitting his stride with this one. It was odd to me that upon exiting the theater the thing that I wondered about most of all is what the hell is he going to do next!

The Master is not an easy movie to sit through, and at times you don't even know what the movie wants. But then you realize that the movie doesn't want anything. All it asks is for you to observe. More so than his earlier films, "The Master" and "There Will Be Blood" really venture into the realm of the film as being a purely cinematic presentation of a life. Anderson doesn't pass judgment or any point of view, he merely stretches the canvas which allows his characters to speak for themselves.

Yes, there is a beginning, middle and an end, but is there? Do we really have a sense of catharsis at the end of "There Will Be Blood"? or do we simply understand "man" a little better?

Anderson insisted, as I'm sure he would say the same for this film, that "There Will Be Blood" wasn't a metaphor for anything. It was what it was. No hidden meaning, no sophisticated and often formulaic subtext. It's simply man. As Hoffman's character says in the trailer for "The Master" - "But above all, I am a man".

The movie deals with an interesting idea of the leader vs. the soldier, master vs. slave. It breaks down the anatomy of a relationship so you may interpret it in any way you'd like.

It's beautifully shot on 65/70mm film which is the way I saw it and the way I recommend for you to see it if you get a chance to. Feels almost as if Anderson is giving the finger to the digital revolution by shooting his film on a resolution so high that digital can only dream of getting there in about ten years or so.

The acting and the dialog is superb as you'd expect. Phoenix and Hoffman are on a different level here, especially Phoenix in a role of a life time. There are definitely times in this film that he completely disappears into that role. There is also some great supporting work from Laura Dern and others.

It would be difficult to place this film in his body of work. More than anything it feels like the natural continuation of what he started with "There Will Be Blood". Not to say that he will continue on this path but just that this is definitely a more narrowly focused film than some of his earlier ensemble work.

I found it to be less engaging than some of his other work and yet there was never a dull moment. You're always on your toes, trying to understand what's going on and where the movie is leading you.

It really is simply, just like man, a fascinating piece of work.

 |  IP: Logged

Mark Ogden
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 943
From: Little Falls, N.J.
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 09-12-2012 05:44 AM      Profile for Mark Ogden   Email Mark Ogden   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Eric Carter
THE MASTER will play at the Ziegfeld in New York in 70mm
No, it won't. The 70mm New York City locations for The Master are the AMC Lincoln Square and the City Cinemas Village East.

 |  IP: Logged

Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 09-12-2012 08:35 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dare I ask...are they going to retrieve a projectionist for the run of THE MASTER in these venues (particularly in NYC)?

 |  IP: Logged

Paul Linfesty
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1383
From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 09-12-2012 09:03 AM      Profile for Paul Linfesty   Email Paul Linfesty   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The Landmark Theatre in West Los Angeles will be running THE MASTER in 70mm.

 |  IP: Logged

Jonathan Goeldner
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1360
From: Washington, District of Columbia
Registered: Jun 2008


 - posted 09-12-2012 05:10 PM      Profile for Jonathan Goeldner   Email Jonathan Goeldner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Michael Marini


It's beautifully shot on 65/70mm film which is the way I saw it and the way I recommend for you to see it if you get a chance to. Feels almost as if Anderson is giving the finger to the digital revolution by shooting his film on a resolution so high that digital can only dream of getting there in about ten years or so.

shame that Samsara distributor didn't go the extra mile and strike around a dozen or so 70mm prints.

 |  IP: Logged

Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 09-12-2012 07:41 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There has been a bit of a deal made about THE MASTER with special test film struck, systems being either re-installed or recommissioned...You might find that if THE MASTER does well with the 70mm run that those same venues could ask for 70mm prints...the odds that a company that produces a movie like Samsara will be more likely to strike 70mm prints if there are venues to run them (and generate enough revenue to more than cover the print costs). But note, they would have some work ahead of them...I seem to recall that since they presumed 4K release, they don't have everything ready to do a film-out at 8K or so...you wouldn't want a 4K film out because the 4K DCP should looks at good as that is going to get. You want the resolution to be higher than the release print...4K is not that.

 |  IP: Logged

Mike Croaro
Master Film Handler

Posts: 394
From: Millbrae, CA
Registered: Apr 2005


 - posted 09-12-2012 08:00 PM      Profile for Mike Croaro   Email Mike Croaro   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Folks:

The Grand Lake Theatre in oakland, CA has a 70mm print. They are advertising it on their website.

Mike

 |  IP: Logged

Jonathan Goeldner
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1360
From: Washington, District of Columbia
Registered: Jun 2008


 - posted 09-12-2012 10:47 PM      Profile for Jonathan Goeldner   Email Jonathan Goeldner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
surely though Steve, the filmmakers of Samsara have the original 65 mm negative - one would hope. The fact that an 8K scan of Baraka was done, then downrezzed to 2K for the bluray release a similar transfer/archive is being down for Samsara.

does anyone know who has done the scan/trasnfer of Samsara to DCP and it's bluray incarnation - Fotokem?

sorry I'm digressing here.

 |  IP: Logged

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 09-12-2012 11:50 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Baraka was scanned at 8K, but all of the restoration work was done at a 2K level for budget reasons.

Still, it is THE all-time reference for blu-ray quality.

 |  IP: Logged

Paul Linfesty
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1383
From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 09-13-2012 08:25 AM      Profile for Paul Linfesty   Email Paul Linfesty   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
THE MASTER will play in TWO theatres at the Hollywood Arclight Cinemas, in the Dome and in one of the regular screens. The other auditoriums will be digital presentations.

 |  IP: Logged

Ted Fendt
Film Handler

Posts: 2
From: Astoria, NY
Registered: Aug 2012


 - posted 09-14-2012 06:44 PM      Profile for Ted Fendt   Email Ted Fendt   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Saw THE MASTER in 70mm at the first screening in Village East's big Auditorium 1 this morning at 11:30.

My thoughts about the film aside, I was underwhelmed by the presentation. The first issue I noticed when the trailers began (in 70mm) was that the projector was really audible in the theater and the booth was apparently not well sound proofed.

Then the jitter became apparent and continued to be distracting throughout the rest of the film as the manager or who ever was projecting it didn't bother to remedy the situation. On top of that I feel like I noticed some ghosting, but couldn't tell if it was related to the jitter or not.

I guess no one bothered to run any test reels at that theater?

Next week I'm going to go see it again at Loews and the Ziegfeld.

 |  IP: Logged

Victor Liorentas
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 800
From: london ontario canada
Registered: May 2009


 - posted 09-16-2012 09:10 PM      Profile for Victor Liorentas   Email Victor Liorentas   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This is a current story in Variety!

It turns out size does matter -- for distribs looking to make an outsized impression for their prestige pics.

Once considered the premium format for franchises like "Star Wars" and "Indiana Jones," 70mm projection has become a boutique format reserved largely for retrospective screenings. But distribs of "The Master," opening today at five locations, and large-scale docu "Samsara," which opened three weeks ago, see the premium presentation as more than just a nod to nostalgic curiosity.

"Master" distrib the Weinstein Co. and "Samsara" distrib Oscilloscope are marketing the 70mm dates as a unique incentive for audiences to see their visually arresting films in theaters, as opposed to on a small multiplex screen or the TV at home.

But the near-relic technology can be both challenging and pricey to implement.

Paul Thomas Anderson's "The Master," which shot in 70mm, bows at New York's Village East and Lincoln Square and the Cinerama Dome and Landmark in L.A. Next to the Dome, moviegoers will be able to see "The Master" with digital projection at the ArcLight Hollywood. Of course, as a film-only medium, 70mm is reserved for theaters still projecting on film rather than digital.

Of the nearly 9,000 commercial film screens left in the U.S., only about 25 have equipment in good enough working order to screen 70mm, while a handful more are in various states of disrepair. And few of today's projectionists have the skills to handle the costly prints.

Weinstein plans to expand "The Master" to roughly half of the nation's 70mm-capable screens -- as well as eventually widening to potentially thousands of digital theaters. But the format carries a hefty pricetag of about $13,000 per print -- more than 10 times the average print fee. Ideally, ticket sales will help offset the added cost of prints, and the Weinstein Co. is singling out 70mm in its print advertising.

So far, advanced sales have been strong for "The Master" in 70mm, with a sold-out midnight Thursday screening at the Cinerama Dome.

"I think what 70mm was back in the '70s and '80s is what Imax is today," said Weinstein distribution topper Erik Lomis. "It's a fantastic format and how the filmmaker envisioned his film to be seen."

But as Imax becomes known as the format for 3D kidpics and superhero epics, 70mm provides an upscale cachet that's underlined by the limited numbers of theaters that can show it.

Weinstein carried out Anderson's vision by sneaking "The Master" over the past few weeks at 70mm locations in Chicago, San Francisco, New York and L.A. The sneaks came before even the film's so-called world premiere at the Venice Film Festival on Sept. 1, irking some Lido organizers. "Master" won Venice prizes for director and actor, shared by Joaquin Phoenix and Philip Seymour Hoffman.

"Samsara," meanwhile, has played solidly via Oscilloscope Laboratories for three weeks Stateside, cuming nearly $500,000. Last weekend the docu, from "Baraka" filmmakers Ron Fricke and Mark Magidson, scored the nation's No. 7 top-grossing engagement overall -- the ArcLight's Cinerama Dome, which contributed $23,586 in three days.

"Samsara," a sprawling, dialogue-less world tour of everything from sacred rituals to disaster zones, was shot on 70mm film over a five-year period in 25 countries. Pic expands today from 25 to 67 locations.

Film orgs have long used 70mm as a lure to get cinephiles away from their DVD collections. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences recently hosted the "Last 70mm Film Festival," featuring 70mm screenings of "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World," "The Sound of Music," "2001: A Space Odyssey" and a new print of "Spartacus." The Acad apparently is in talks to host another 70mm film festival, based on the success of the first.

And the American Cinematheque, which uses the slogan "Movies on the big screen as they were meant to be seen," hosts regular 70mm screenings at the Egyptian Theater, such as "Vertigo" on Sept. 29.

Contact Andrew Stewart at andrew.stewart@variety.com

 |  IP: Logged

Ben Wales
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 602
From: Southampton. England
Registered: Jul 99


 - posted 09-18-2012 04:20 PM      Profile for Ben Wales   Email Ben Wales   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Victor Liorentas
Weinstein plans to expand "The Master" to roughly half of the nation's 70mm-capable screens -- as well as eventually widening to potentially thousands of digital theaters. But the format carries a hefty pricetag of about $13,000 per print -- more than 10 times the average print fee. Ideally, ticket sales will help offset the added cost of prints, and the Weinstein Co. is singling out 70mm in its print advertising.
Some encouragement reading this and when I enquired about 70mm Screenings here in the UK, there are NO 70mm Prints being shipped over, dispite it was screened at BAFTA in 70mm a few months ago!.

 |  IP: Logged

Richard May
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1057
From: Floral Park, NY USA
Registered: Aug 2004


 - posted 09-19-2012 06:43 AM      Profile for Richard May   Email Richard May   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, they are getting a projectionist for Lincoln Square.

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)
This topic comprises 7 pages: 1  2  3  4  5  6  7 
 
   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2020 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.