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Jonathan Goeldner
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@ Aaron:
which audio mix are you referring to:

2D DCP (5.1 or 7.1 mix)?
3D DCP (5.1 or 7.1 mix)?
IMAX 3D DCP?

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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I just saw JURASSIC PARK at Regal's Dole Cannery 18 in digital IMAX 3- D and found everything Aaron had pointed out about the sound mix totally unwarranted in my opinion. In fact, I never heard the movie sound this good before. The sound throughout the wilm was well placed and was clear including the dialogue.

The post converted 3-D was amazing and consider it just as good as AVATAR and HUGO which were both native 3-D productions. I was planning to see this in Real D at a theatre closer to where I live but I am glad I saw the IMAX version.

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Aaron Garman
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It was a 3D 5.1 DCP. It's possible the IMAX version has a different mix.

AJG

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Jonathan Goeldner
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wouldn't the IMAX mix have height center channel audio matrixing?

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Joe Redifer
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Why would there be a separate sound mix for 2D and 3D?

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Jonathan Goeldner
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^ there wouldn't be, I have NO IDEA why I asked it that way... [sleep]

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Randy Stankey
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quote: Manny Knowles
The first 30-seconds of this clip from "Witches of Eastwick" says it all.
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Brad Miller
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quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
I just saw JURASSIC PARK at Regal's Dole Cannery 18 in digital IMAX 3- D and found everything Aaron had pointed out about the sound mix totally unwarranted in my opinion. In fact, I never heard the movie sound this good before. The sound throughout the wilm was well placed and was clear including the dialogue.
The odds are the Regal sound system was better than the sound system you saw it on in 1993. The reports I've been hearing from people who have heard it is that it is nowhere near as good as the original mix.

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Steve Guttag
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As I hated the original mix, that isn't saying much. A very painful mix to be heard and I ran a premier with those telling me that is how it should sound. We had a lot of complaints about it during the show too. That is another thing I never had during a premier either.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Dialog issues? Louis

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Joe Redifer
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Steve, it probably sounded that bad because you had people there telling you how it should sound. Clearly they were wrong. It should not hurt anyone's ears.

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Aaron Garman
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I can't imagine it ever hurting anyone's ears. To me, the original JP mix is one of those perfect mixes. Amazing fidelity and dynamic range. An example of something that can get very loud but never be fatiguing. Even in the quiet moments, it shines. The archeological dig at the beginning is a great example of this. Voice also always came across as crystal clear.

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Brad Miller
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JP was never harsh in the theaters I ran it in. Something was really wrong with your sound system for that premiere, Steve.

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Steve Guttag
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It was tuned for the Universal guys themselves...THEY set it as it was supposed to be. If it didn't make you want to leave the theatre...then it was YOU who didn't have a good tuning/sound system.

It is the first time I ever had to leave the theatre during the run through because I couldn't take the sound.

And the music...oh what a broken record it sounded like (I guess since it was DTS...it might have been a broken record).

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Cameron Glendinning
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I remember that there were lots of complaints regarding the sound mix of Jurassic Park when it was first released, some West End Cinemas in London were turning up the centre channel to reduce the dynamic range because of complaints from the customers.

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