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Author Topic: Film v Digital - Differences in Presentation Standards Terry Lynn-Stevens Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1081 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Dec 2012 posted 02-18-2015 09:29 PM                     quote: Monte L Fullmer AND, when you think of it: I've NEVER had any complaints on the letterboxed presentations at our cinema from any of the general, movie going public That pretty much sums it up. Most customers have no issue with it, although I prefer masking, it does not really bug me all the much.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-18-2015 10:28 PM                     Customers are stupid.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-18-2015 11:07 PM                        Well, it isn't the customer's job to know about masking (or miss it when it's not there). It's the theater's job to deliver an impressive experience. To me, walking in and seeing the lacings of the screen exposed would be a huge turnoff. I expect a non-theater-owner might just look at it and go "hmm, that's kind of weird looking" and forget about it, but it would definitely look less luxurious and thus, not seem as "worth the money" to the customer. Same as if the walls were unpainted, or if there were bare bulbs hanging from wires instead of nice sconces.  |  IP: Logged Terry Lynn-Stevens Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1081 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Dec 2012 posted 02-18-2015 11:27 PM                     What is the lacing thing? The new screens are mounted on metal frames, it wraps around the frame. Nothing is exposed.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-19-2015 12:16 AM                     quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens What is the lacing thing? The new screens are mounted on metal frames, it wraps around the frame. Nothing is exposed. You're probably not looking at the setup closely enough. No one will ever stretch a movie screen properly by screwing it directly into a metal frame. The same principal is true for large flex face signs. A proper flex face sign uses one of a variety of adjustable tensioning systems. The cheap, fly by night sign companies just cut the flex faces to size and drill them into an angle iron frame. The approach is fast, but it isn't for shit. The faces never stretch evenly and then when a decent storm blows through the faces can be ripped to shreds. quote: Mike Blakesley To me, walking in and seeing the lacings of the screen exposed would be a huge turnoff. Yep. Some theaters do a better job of hiding it than others. But the whole thing takes on the appearance of a trampoline leaned up against the cinder block wall. "Uh, yeah! Hey, uh, bring that big trampoline back here in this big tall storage room! It has a bunch of seats in it, but we can lean it against the wall over here on this end!"  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-19-2015 12:28 AM                     Terry is talking about wrap-around screens. (The crappy kind like IMAX uses.) The gromits and lacing string/springs are on the back side because the screen wraps a few inches around the round frame edges.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 02-19-2015 12:39 AM                     Good ol' "Floating Screens." Cheapest things to install. They were a Big rave in the early 70's so dimming lights could be mounted behind and on each side of the screen. Screen frame was mounted solely on the black core coated back wall and mounted far enough from the back wall to allow speaker install. No masking was present, thus flat presentations had fuzzy edges and scope presentations would spill over the sides since the black core material soaked up the excess light. This concept was to represent a drive-in screen with glow on each side as if the sun was at dusk making the screen more darker than it was. Yet, in short, very distracting with those lights at just a dim glow. Fad only lasted a few years, but the install of floating screens really took off due to the economical way of install especially using screen springs. Our location has screens installed on conventional frames and actual black lacing twine was used instead of screen springs... And we have no movable masking, but just the black dubotene cloth strip masking to hide the lace and screen lace grommets. -Monte  |  IP: Logged

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