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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Christian Volpi
Otherwise these machines are great.

[Eek!] OHMYGODHESBEENBRAINWASHED [Eek!]

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Phil Hill
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Yeah, I agree Mark. Those Apogee's are just as bad as any of those POS "greasy old Century's". [Razz] YUK!

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Christian Volpi
and we even found out why all of our prints were getting scratched and got the part replaced and we haven't scratched a print since

Ohhhh, dang.....I missed the best part....... [Roll Eyes]

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Monte L Fullmer
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I'm waiting to goto ShoWest this spring to see these Apogee's in person.

But by the pictures that I've seen of this unit, it looks like Strong forgot to finish off the lower half of this machine, for it looks like it's not completely assembled-just left hanging there.

And it looks like a midget with tiny hands are the only ones who can lace this thing up without any problem-so compact - just as bad as a Simplex/Acme portable.

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Thomas Dieter
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I have to say that out of all the projectors that I've worked with, Century JJ and Simplex are the best. I was trained on Century JJ and Orc Platters (I never had a problem like it shows in the reviews), and while the drive inns were open here in Yakima, I learned Reel to Reel Projection on the Simplex XL with RCA Sound head. I kind of like the idea of loose tension sound head.

I've also had the most unforgiving privilege of running Ballantyne Pro35 and Cinecita. I always found my bottom loop hard to thread after the intermittent with the Cinecita. I never really liked how the Ballantyne was threaded, although I was able to thread it without knowing how, but I guess most of you can do that with almost any projector as they are for the most part the same. All you have to know is if they are tight tension or loose tension.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Steve Guttag
I did have the chance to see a film in the Stag on those Norelcos...the picture was not impressive at all. There was notable weave and jump and the image was poorly focused (Schneider anamorphics)...the operator racked focus and it was uniform.

For those that are curious we did have some 35mm unsteadiness with the one Lucasfilm machine that has been re-installed so far. Even though Kinoton U.S. re-ground all 12 of the 35mm runners for this job there was still some noticable image movement that could not be gotten rid of. This was cured by installing one of James Bond's compound curved 35mm custom runners. The image is now dead steady and very sharp with a 4kw Xetron/Big Sky lamp behind it. This runner has no flat area to it at the aperature as do the originals. These runners were designed by Jim and cnc machined by the late Norm Lauderbach.

Mark

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Monte L Fullmer
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I know this topic has became a bit outdated but I have to show some of this to watch out for:

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Once again, good ol' Strong comes through with this:

Caused by the erroneous design of the Mil2000 machines.
(this is not much of a problem with the older "XL/1050" machines)

Being that, due to the new taller case, the upper constant speed sprocket was moved up almost two inches, but keeping the same width distance between trap and gate and the trailing end of the sprocket. Thus, when operators makes their upper loops so tall, that the loop has to "bend" backwards before entering into the trap and gate assembly.

Thus, this massive wear at the top corner of the band. Yet sad, that the rest of the band still has very little wear,

Christie P35's are smart in having the upper constant speed sprocket far enough forward to the front that the upper loop size can be a lot lower, thus the film never has to touch this corner of the band.

-Monte

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Darryl Spicer
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the 1060's had that top feed sprocket raised too. So it could accomodate the newer turret design. What I have them do is when they make that top loop at the lowest point of the loop (Where it should be if timed correctly) they are to make sure that the top part of the loop is at the same level that the upper part of the sprocket bolt is on that top feed sprocket. Things run smoother when this is done.

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Jacek Dejnarowicz
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In my single theater I have old Prexer AP 51 projectors and I'm wondering if anyone ever heard about Prexer?

[ 03-23-2005, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: Jacek Dejnarowicz ]

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Marin Zorica
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Yes yes i got prexer also, it's made in poland obout 70's til 92 i think when lodzikie cinematography zaklady broke and stop producting it.
I got Ap61's, Ap 622's and AP621's here, but i servicing them many.

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Richard Fowler
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Prexer was handled by Arriflex and later Kinoton in certain foriegn markets. The main company Verimex stopped producing machines in the early 90's and is now basically trading optical and military goods. We had clients with AP621 with a halogen lamphouse which we made kits to convert to 1000 watt xenon many years ago.

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Jacek Dejnarowicz
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I also have AP621 with 1000watt halogen. Sometimes I use them for alfresco shows.
BTW, in march I replaced the old sound scan with brand new reverse scan which is produced by my tech company. But I'm still wondering if I can use reverse by Kelmar or another for Prexer?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Can someone post a photo of a Prexer Machine? It would be interesting to see......

Thanks!
Mark

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Marin Zorica
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Here is photo of PREXER AP-61(blue) and PREXER AP-621 (silver)

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If you need more let me know!

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Richard Fowler
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The basic chassis for most Prexer units are derived from the Ernemann 7B projector layout. Interesting with the collapse of the Polish market with Soviet umbrella gone; this company like many others had to go into other markets to survive....notably military hardware and arms for the Polish military.

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