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Topic: The first movie you ran on your own was...?
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Stephen Furley
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Posts: 3059
From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 09-30-2004 07:45 AM
Adverts and trailers reel, on my first visit to a cinema, I'm pretty sure it was an Odeon, because the machines were pre-war BTH's, which were the standard for Odeon; ABC used Ross. Very similar to the set-up that our friend from Faversham was running until a couple of years ago, except that these had the original BTH arcs, but his had been converted to Kalee Presidents.
This was in 1963, aged six, after being taken to see Disney's 'The Sword in the Stone'; I'm pretty sure that's what the film was. They had to give me a box to stand on to reach the projector.
Didn't run any more 35mm for several years.
Edit.
Sorry, that wasn't on my own, of course. I'm not sure what my first show on my own was; I ran a couple of shows at what is now the Ritzy, Brixton, in the early '70s, I think that may have been my first time on my own with 35mm, but I'm not sure. I do remember that one of the films was in Chinese, but not to worry, it had subtitles; in Spanish! I think there were about three people in the audience for that one.
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Hugh McCullough
Expert Film Handler

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From: Old Coulsdon, Surrey, UK
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 09-30-2004 07:50 AM
First started showing educational 16mm films to an audience when at school in 1956 on a Bell & Howell. I can not remember the model. This was after they discovered that I had a GB L516 projector at home. I still have this machine. Started in the cinema industry in 1958, when I was 17 years old, as an apprentice projectionist, and spent the first six months just cleaning everything in site, including the box floor, rewinding 2000 ft spools of film, learning how to make proper cement splices, and film handling in general. In those days in the UK a projectionist was thought to be a valued member of the cinema industry. Wish the same could be said nowadays. Every Tuesday went to college on a projection course run by the cinema owners, and the union. Here I learnt how projector, and sound systems worked, and general electrical practise. Ran my first film on my own to a paying audience after this six months. It was a Sunday only show of 'Rocket Ship XM' on Kalee 12s, BTH sound with film gate instead of scanning drum, and Kalee Vulcan carbon arcs.
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Stephen Furley
Film God

Posts: 3059
From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 09-30-2004 09:52 AM
Hugh, I was at Wandsworth Tech, later South Thames College from 1974-78. I know that they had previously run projection courses there, but it had all stopped by my time. All they taught then was 16mm portable machines for classroom use. The main hall of the old building had it's 35mm equipment removed before I went there, and the hall was chosed for re-furbishment during my first year. When it re-opened it was equipped with a single Elf-Lite EX-3000 floor-standing 16mm xenon machine, that students weren't allowed anywhere near. I managed to get special permission to go and have a look at it; the first xenon machine I had seen, and also the first large-screen 16mm installation.
Do you remember what 35mm equipment they used to have?
The two lecturers who taught projection in my time were Ted Church and Harry Court, Ted was quite old, and Harry had been qiute seriously ill, so I suspect that both have been dead for years by now, but they had been there for many years. Did you know either of them?
I believe that one pair of the Kalee Vistavision 8-perf machines, possibly the pair from the Odeon Leicester Square was there at one time, but I think only stored in a dismantled state, not in use. Also, parts of the system that filmed a video display, processed the film and then projected it within a few minutes were said to have been taken there after it was used for the coronation, but all of this equipment was also long gone by my time.
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Hugh McCullough
Expert Film Handler

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From: Old Coulsdon, Surrey, UK
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 09-30-2004 12:38 PM
Stephen. The projection course stopped around 1969. A great pity. We had no 16mm machines, and the 35mm projectors were a mixture sourced from unwanted equipment from ABC, and Rank. Two different projectors, one with a RCA sound head, and the other with a Westrex sound head. Long time ago so I am not sure, but I think the Westrex was fitted to a Kalee, and the RCA to a Ross. This sounds about right. One machine was fitted with a Peerless carbon arc, but can not remember what the other arc was. I am sure that it was of a different make. The name Ted Church sounds familiar, but I can't put a face to him. Do not remember seeing any VistaVision machines. I remember hearing about a system where a film camera was mounted on top of a large van. The film, after exposure, was fed through the roof of the van where it was processed, and copies made to be distributed to a few West End cinemas. I believe that this was tried by British Movietone News to film the Lord Mayor's Show, and that some of the cinemas were showing the start of the procession before the Lord Mayor arrived at the Mansion House.
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