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Topic: Most Painful Mistake?
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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1714
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-19-2000 11:23 AM
Joe,I was one of those people who screened Ready to Wear for you and I swear that it looked fine to me. Of course I was just looking at the models. My most painful booth mistake was when I stood up under a 70mm penthouse door and gashed my head. We were very close to showtime in all 12 of our theatres so I had to thread them all up. So for an hour I was wandering around the booth, treading projectors and starting films with blood poring down my head onto my cloths. Finaly after I had started everything, I went to the bathroom to clean up. I looked worse than some of the dead guys in the slasher ficks. My manager couldn't beleve that I had worked like that. But if not me who? Anyway, it looked worse than it was.
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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-19-2000 11:24 AM
Stephen:Bet you are all still seeing "spots" in front of your eyes. Seriously, if you or your guests are still seeing an afterimage of the arc, it would be a very good idea to go to an eye doctor. The strong UV from an unshielded carbon or xenon arc can damage the retina within a matter of seconds.  Reminds me of a Kodachrome Super-8 film I made in a film class in college called "The Unseen Showman", showing a day-in-the-life of a projectionist. I aimed a Super-8 camera with automatic exposure control at an open Ashcraft Core-Lite lamphouse and struck the arc (not looking at it directly myself, of course). The camera's auto exposure control worked perfectly, so I got a scene with the carbons coming together, and then the plasma "flame", all well exposed. If I was a modern "film" student and using a video or DV camera, I'm sure I would have "fried" the CCD with this trick.  Wonder if video was ever used to "film" nuclear explosions? ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Kyle Smith
Film Handler
Posts: 21
From: Branford, CT, USA
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 05-19-2000 03:18 PM
My most embarrasing moment:On my second shift for Hoyt's in 1989, I threaded "Parenthood" with the soundtrack turned inside the projector. I start it up and...wala! The logo is horizontally flipped with no sound. What's worse is how I corrected this abberation. Instead of taking one minute to unthread the Century and simply "turning the film around", I have it in my head that I have to rewind the entire film and rethread from scratch. Yeah, that took a good hour producing some irate patrons. I thought it would cost my job for sure. You can rest assured I haven't made that mistake again though! Most painful:
I briefly worked for an old (still existing) single-screen house with the traditional 2000' reels and carbon arcs (Magnarc lamphouses). While changing carbons during a show, I failed to secure the hood properly and it came crashing down on my head. I also have some bruises on my hand from splicers. Another persons makeup "disaster":
We got "Beauty & the Beast" for the second time and the makeup projectionist forgot to visually verify the third reel was heads up. Sure enough, everything's going fine until the splice and the characters appear upside down. At least we got a good laugh from the kids in the auditorium. Another persons exhibiting "disaster":
We ran the SPECO platters in which payout & takeup functions were assigned by pressing a button. Well in cinema 1, the takeup button for the top platter liked to pop back out and disengage the function. This was at a theater with all manual controls and no failsafes. So the projectionist is of course downstairs chatting away with the concessionists, drinking his soda when "Pretty Woman" starts loading onto the floor. He goes upstairs, sees about 15-20 minutes of film spilling next to the projector base and decides not to interrupt the show and let the whole thing run onto the floor. I report in at 6:00 and go check on him upstairs (I was scheduled to work concessions that night) and I see this huge mess and he yells some expletives as he's dancing around trying to sort the mess. I later was sent back up to help him but we missed the 7:00 show. We finally got the thing back up for the 9:20 show but "Pretty Woman" wasn't so pretty anymore, to say the least.
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Ethan Harper
E-dawggg!!!

Posts: 325
From: Plano, TX, USA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 05-19-2000 03:41 PM
Dang Kyle that sucksanybody got any info on how i can get my hands on that seminar tape. sounds funny. anyways i used to work in a cinemark 2-plex which has many walls and many stairs there was a week that went by that i triiped on those narrow stairs but that is beside the point. i used to have a problem with running into the corners of walls(really freakin' hurts especially with glassess so they get oushed farther into your face) and interlock rollers as well. One time it was the last start of the last round and i was tired. I was double checking the bottom roller when all of the weight in my head went flying into the manual douser lever(CFS7000) it knocked me back and i was looking at stars. As anybody everheard a 7000watt bulb explode? It is extremely loud:0 Scared everyone. I have heard it twice. You can hear it from one side of the building to completely the other. how about false fire alarms? I will never forget the time there was a 30 min. blackout in the whole theater. it was packed and all of the patrons who came to the huge 20-plex got a raincheck. how much do you think this one cost? ------------------ --"That's my story and i'm sticking to it!"--
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Ethan Harper
E-dawggg!!!

Posts: 325
From: Plano, TX, USA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 05-19-2000 03:53 PM
Im sorry forgot something it was a 20-plex not a 2-plex.weirdest thing i have seen while closing. it was about 2:00am and i waws shutting down booth when in the last theater i see a couple who have fallen asleep. work lights were on and non-sync was going. police had to come and revive the two from the dream that was better than the movie. weirdest thing i have heard that has happened well in my theater at least. all stadium seating. two people having sex in the middle walkway of the auditorium. and another performing oral faltio in prince of egypt. called police to that teater but they were done before they arrived. some body once threw a pair os purple panties on the porthole for dr doolittle weirdest thing found cocaine and beer bottles. condoms in front of theater I have even seen a couple of people been escorted out of the theater and was arrested. i believe at least one of those had a warrant out forhis arrest and he arrrived to the theater drunk off his ass. really smart there buddy. Ironically I have heard of one fight manager tried to stop but was pushed. they ran away befpore cops got to them. Oh yeah 2 bomb threats. one false. the other ws just some customers tools in which were found in the parking lot. it was in a army issued ammo box. employees and customers could not get to their car within that vicinity until the scene has been chaecked out. But yes it was a nice rich neighborhood. its plano. conglomerate international any body else find weird stuuf in a theater? ------------------ --"That's my story and i'm sticking to it!"--
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Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-19-2000 03:54 PM
Ethan, I was working at your nearby theater when you had that blackout. The big 20 plex killed our business and there was exactly myself and ONE employee on duty when we got hit by your angry customers who took their business to our theater when you lost power...and we got hit bad! I had to run projectors, clean theaters, sell concessions and tear tickets for about 1000 people within less than an hour that day. I also did a very nice and painful backflip landing on my head/shoulders (ala Joe Pesci in Home Alone) on the concession floor because a certain someone never bothered to fix our bag in the box oil pump and I was hand dipping the oil into the kettle. That makes a real mess and those non-stick floors cannot combat an oil spill. After that, I had to swap places with the girl in box office because my head wouldn't stop bleeding and selling food wasn't the best place for me to be at that point. Needless to say, my suit was ruined and the company outright refused to pay for it.THAT sucked!
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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

Posts: 3061
From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 05-19-2000 04:50 PM
Ethan Said: "any body else find weird stuuf(sic) in a theater?"I used to work in a porno drive-in. You can only *imagine* what i have found out there while either servicing the field or cleaning the place up during the day. You can usually find some strange items in a theatre right after any screening of 'Rocky Horror Picture Show' as well. Odd Things I have found in regualar theatres (non-porno, and not after a showing of RHPS): -Dirty Diapers (someone had the BALLS to change a baby in the auditorium?!?) -a pair of pantyhose -a pair of pants, belt and all , nothing in the pockets tho... -a pile of *human feces* in the elevator of our 9-plex (gak) -on several occasions in my career I have found small quantities of 'illegal' drugs (marijuana, crack, crank, powder cocaine) that have 'fallen out' of someone's pockets... their loss (the items in question were *not* consumed or resold by me they were flushed down the toilet) *Then there are the strange food items that have been found in the auditoria: -three *large* Domino's Pizza boxes (how *these* managed to get by the ushers is one for the X-Files)  -a large box of Cheerios -an empty Mason jar that had some kind of home-canned friut or vegetable in it *Then the pleasant surprises found while cleaning: -a $100 bill under a seat -several [still]cameras, Walkmen, CDs, cassettes, and calculators, most go unclaimed... * Living things other than people, insects or common housepets/vermin making their way in a theatre: -we had a skunk come visit the lobby in Tiburon -a bat somehow made it into the 3rd floor lobby of Sebastopol -Errant birds, mostly smaller ones, but I have seen pigeons and crows in theatre lobbies and auditoria... I could go on....  Aaron
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Dwayne Caldwell
Master Film Handler

Posts: 323
From: Rockwall, TX, USA
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 05-20-2000 02:43 PM
I remember we had two projectors, #6 and #8, whose distance between both platter systems was about three feet apart. This was an AMC booth and the platters were ORC. It wasn't uncommon for me and this other guy to spin both platters at the same time (in opposite directions) to spool the remaining tail leaders onto the take up platters. Of course, this was when the take up platters were either both on top or in the middle. We stopped doing it when I was receiving a shock. Actually, it felt more like a surge of static electrical current running through my arms. And I want to say it pasted my chest, but I really can't remember. This was more than three years ago. Anyway, I asked the other guy if he'd been receiving the same kind of discharge and he said he had. I didn't have the problem when I spun one or the other of the platters by itself. So I asked him if he had any problems spinning the platters individually and he said, "Nope. It's only when I spin both platters." I told him we needed to stop doing it since I had no idea what was causing it and had just assumed we lose the extra time to spin one more platter then have a stopped heart. I still don't know exactly what that was. Anybody out there have any idea? ------------------ The man with the magic hands.
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Chris Rhode
Film Handler
Posts: 39
From: Tampa, FL, USA
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 05-21-2000 11:25 AM
One of my idiot mistakes:I had just built up Dogma (8 reels) and I went to take it off of the platter. There were no clamps on it and when I went to swing it off of thte platter, it just came apart in my hands. It took 3 hours to put back together again and needless to say, I always check the tightness of the print before I move it myself. Another idiot mistake someone else had but I had to fix: I was off the previous day when I get in the next day to find a big pile of film all tangled up on the build-up table with a note scribbled on one of those papers you get with the prints that said something to the effect of, "this is angela's ashes, I didn't know how to fix it, so fix it. Thanks." Enough said. On a side note, this happened at 11:30 that morning and the manager came up and saw what happened and asked, "will this be up for the 1:05 show??"  One of my other projectionists were building up a print of Black & White for a press screening. The first 2 reels ran fine when all of a sudden the third reel was running upside down. I didn't monitor the sound but I realised what had happened. Naturally the critics were pissed and we had to cancel the screening because we weren't able to finish it in time for the first show we ran in that house. Most painful mistake: transferring film from one 6k reel to another and trying to stop the pay-out reel spinning at top speed. I thought I was placing my hand in the direction that the reel was spinning when it was in the opposite direction. I got my middle and index finger caught in one of the holes. It just plain hurt for the first 2 minutes. I was shaking my hand kind of like when you hit your finger with a hammer when I looked at the floor and realised that there was blood. I looked at my fingers and saw that my fingertips got sliced. We didn't have any first aid kit, so i just took some paper towels, wrapped it around my fingers and taped them with maksing tape. Ethan: I have heard a 7k bulb explode. It was while it was lit and during a show of Mission To Mars. I never heard it because i wasn't around but I asked the projectionist running that side when it happened and he said it sounded like a great big explosion. He was right next to it when it happened and he said he almost crapped his pants!!! Joe, I would like to get ahold of that video you have. How can i get a copy of it??
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Rick Long
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 759
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 05-21-2000 01:28 PM
Recently, while on a service call, I noticed that the error rate on the Dolby DA-20 was flashing 3,F,3,F,3,F.....ect., quite rapidly.Acting on a suspicion, I placed my finger on the film over the sound-drum on the Cat 700, and felt, as I had suspected, a "bump" with every revolution of the sound drum. Using a flashlight, I could see a gob of splicing tape stuck to the drum. I tried to unstick it with my fingernail with the projector running. THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA! Sprocket-marked fingers hurt!
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