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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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Changing a hot 7000 watt lamp without protective gear? You're very lucky to still be alive and have your eyesight. NEVER do that again (even with a cold bulb)!

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Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
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Don Olson
Film Handler

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From: Seattle WA
Registered: Jul 99


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I had a Super80 lamphouse that wouldn't line up right. I finally resorted to moving the lamp yoke and the entire lamphouse with the bulb lit and door open. No face shield. TXH house and I am desperate. I struggled and then saw stars. The lamphouse door came off the magnets and hit me across the nose. Dan Devoe was with me. I ask him if I was bleeding. He said. "yep" Is there a flap of skin?? I ask. Dan answered yes. Which way should I push it to cover up my meat?? He kinda showed me up and to the right. I pushed the flap over the meat and kept working. In the end we discovered that the reflector was so heat damaged that no alignment would improve the amount of light.

It was late and I hate to give up.

Don

Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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Don-

I hear ya! Just last week I had a Super 80 door come down on my head while installing it... Had just finished the static (string and weight) alignment so I tightened the bolts, then made the mistake of giving the thing a quick shake to see if it was solid..... CRASH! Ouch.... Had a headache for the better part of the day.

Aaron

Gordon Leslie
Film Handler

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From: Perth ,Western Australia
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Back in 73 I also worked in the telecine dept of TV, one Sunday after the midday movie got under way I was sitting back at my control desk like thousands of viewers, having lunch and enjoying the movie.
At the end of one of the commercial breaks I get a call on the intercom from the master controller asking where the second reel of the movie is as nothing is coming up on the preview screen. I spin around to check the other 16mm projector and there's nothing loaded up, the second spool was still in the trolley. Up comes the "stay tuned" caption while I do a quick thread…….most embarrassing!.

Another around the same time; during a commercial break there was a slide ad with a 10sec spot, when it came up on air I realised I put the slide in the carriage back to front, not to worry I'll just hit the switch which will reverse the slide, wrong! In my haste to throw the switch I hit the wrong one, this one turned the slide upside down so now I had a slide upside down and back to front!, with 5sec to go I just left it , I didn't wont to risk anything else going wrong. That last 5sec felt like 5mins.

And yet another; I suppose I could blame my wife for this one, she wont be reading this thread……..A few years back when I returned to the bio (booth) I headed off to night shift with my dinner in hand which my lovely wife prepared. I see its in one of those aluminium containers with a lid like you see in takeaway stores. I think great hot food so around 6pm I stick the tray in the oven to heat up to have around 6:45 when the features have started. I get a bit delayed so I didn't grab dinner out of the oven till after 7, I get the tray out , sit down with knife & fork in hand, take the lid off……..oh no!! it’s a salad!!!!!!!! I was hungry that night so I still polished it off, the lettuce wasn't to good, it's surprising how much water comes out of them when their cooked!.

And still another; getting out of bed on a cold wet winter morning absolutely dog tired trudging down to the bus stop for a 25klm ride to work in peak hour traffic, get into work and see the other projectionist walk in the same time as you and say, Gordon what are you doing here your on tonight!, so you get back on the bus and head of again to go through the whole thing again in 6 hours….now that sucks!!.
Back in 73 I also worked in the telecine dept of TV, one Sunday after the midday movie got under way I was sitting back at my control desk like thousands of viewers, having lunch and enjoying the movie.
At the end of one of the commercial breaks I get a call on the intercom from the master controller asking where the second reel of the movie is as nothing is coming up on the preview screen. I spin around to check the other 16mm projector and there's nothing loaded up, the second spool was still in the trolley. Up comes the "stay tuned" caption while I do a quick thread…….most embarrassing!.

Another around the same time; during a commercial break there was a slide ad with a 10sec spot, when it came up on air I realised I put the slide in the carriage back to front, not to worry I'll just hit the switch which will reverse the slide, wrong! In my haste to throw the switch I hit the wrong one, this one turned the slide upside down so now I had a slide upside down and back to front!, with 5sec to go I just left it , I didn't wont to risk anything else going wrong. That last 5sec felt like 5mins.

And yet another; I suppose I could blame my wife for this one, she wont be reading this thread……..A few years back when I returned to the bio (booth) I headed off to night shift with my dinner in hand which my lovely wife prepared. I see its in one of those aluminium containers with a lid like you see in takeaway stores. I think great hot food so around 6pm I stick the tray in the oven to heat up to have around 6:45 when the features have started. I get a bit delayed so I didn't grab dinner out of the oven till after 7, I get the tray out , sit down with knife & fork in hand, take the lid off……..oh no!! it’s a salad!!!!!!!! I was hungry that night so I still polished it off, the lettuce wasn't to good, it's surprising how much water comes out of them when their cooked!.

And still another; getting out of bed on a cold wet winter morning absolutely dog tired trudging down to the bus stop for a 25klm ride to work in peak hour traffic, get into work and see the other projectionist walk in the same time as you and say, Gordon what are you doing here your on tonight!, so you get back on the bus and head of again to go through the whole thing again in 6 hours….now that sucks!!.

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Leo Enticknap
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My biggest screwup has to be showing a trailer for CRASH before a kids' matinee of THE SOUND OF MUSIC.

This was in a single screen cinema that used two projectors and changeovers - we made up one reel of commercials and trailers that would often be shown before several features.

On this occasion, all but one of the trailers were U-certificate (OK to show to kids). The CRASH trailer (18-cert) was right at the end, so that when the reel was being shown in a lower-cert programme, we'd changeover from it at the end of the penultimate trailer, and let the reel run out with the douser closed.

On this occasion, I started the commercials and went out to get a coffee. Whilst doing this the duty manager asked me to fix her computer, and so I got back to the box slightly later than planned. As I walked in, a voice could be heard from the booth monitor asking, 'Do you want to sodomise him? Do you want to penetrate right to the back of his anus?' - needless to say, it wasn't Julie Andrews!

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Gordon McLeod
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My favorite one was many years ago at the Cineplex Odeon Eaton's Centre theatre (rear Screen) there was a relief projectionist in for the matinea in one section and he went into one of the reeel screen booths to thread up the first show (Tower ). He threaded up the unlabled reel on the tower pressed start and then had to leave the rearscreen booth and went on to the next booth. The only problem the opertor from the night before hadn't moved over the correct print so an audience of toddlers who thought they were going to see Song of the South got Ford Fairlaine in stead

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Rick Long
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Having just got home, after a hard day's work and just having sat down to supper, I got a call from Local 173 Buisness Agent, Graydon Hulse.

"We're in real trouble, can ya help us?" he asked. Turned out the guy who was supposed to work the Odeon, Oshawa that night, phoned at the last minute to say he couldn't make it. As I was only half an hour away from the theatre, I vounteered to fill the shift.

It was a piece of cake, two Century projectors, Eprad OS-1 Mono sound system, Peerless Magnarc carbon arcs, twenty minute reels, and a five-reeler called "Young Guns" with a trailer package on the first reel.

As this was basically the same equipment I had worked with years earlier, in Cobourg, Ontario, I figured I might enjoy this trip down memory lane.

The evening was boringly blissful until the last change-over. At the point of change-over, all I saw was a black screen. A lightning quick check, arc on, dowser open, and, looking in the spot-sight box, the change-over blade was still closed. I reached behind the Essanay change-over mechanism to pull the rod so that the change-over blade opened. It was already in the open position. I realized that the blade had become separated from the wire that connected it to the change-over solenoid.

Working at light-speed, I killed the arc, whipped open the arc-lamp door and reached into the back of the projector to lift the blade.

It was at this point that I realized, too late, the wisdom of shutting off the projector motor BEFORE reaching into the back of a Century CC (double-shutter) projector, and attempting to lift the change-over blade.

Realizing that I would now need my tool-box (from my car, parked out front of the theatre), I quickly wrapped my bleeding fingers in brown paper and headed out to my car to grab my tool-box (passing the manager, chatting to one of his staff). Noticing the blood-stained paper towel over my left hand, he casually inquired.
"Everything ok?"

"Just fine" I muttered without stopping.

Got the performance back up and running, but I still feel a touch of something like arthritis, every time I see a Century.

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Brad Miller
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Dumb question, but wouldn't it have been easier to move the reel of film to the other projector than run to the car, since the show had already stopped?

Can you still count to ten on your hands?

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Per Hauberg
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"BARQUERO" - a m i n o r (indeed)1970 or so very longwinded western from United Artists, starring Lee Van Cleef was ordered express to nect theatre, and to be sure of cathing last train out of town that evening for the shipment, i ran the late show on 2000 ft reels c/o - grapping reel 6 in stead of reel 5. -End credits started, while i was loading what i thought was the last reel. Not a single complaint from audience, but funny glimses from ground personel and lots of requests the next many weeks about "going home early nonite or what...?"

More serious mistake: Many years later, now having my own place - believing an equipment dealer, telling me, that i'd be a fool installing those two Bauer B11's, i've bought for reserve, because it would be impossible to get spares for them. -He sold me a Vic 9 instead YAK !

-And Kinoton, Münich shows up to have all the bits You need for B11. OK, Miss Victoria has been rockin' and rollin' now for 4 years without making the big trouble, but a mistake it was....

Per

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Dave Cutler
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One of the guys at my theatre built 'Jocob the Liar' with reels 3 & 4 switched, and it ran that way for two weeks untill a guest who had saw it at another theatre told my about it. I had two people screen that and neither of them noticed.

I knew a guy once who (while the projector was running) saw some dirt on the trap and decided to poke at it with an allen wrench. Not a good idea. He dropped the allen into the running projector and tore the crap out of it.

Other than a finger or two cought in fast spinning 6000' reels or hitting my head on equiptment or electricuting myself, I have been pretty lucky compared to some of you guys. Then again, I am still fairly new (5 years).

Actually I do remember hoping up and down in the booth waving my hand around in pain splattering blood everywhere once. I can't remember what I did at the moment though. Oh well.

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Paul Cunningham
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Hello to all film-techers, having been "lurking" for the last couple of months and reading nearly all of the 14,000 entries in the forum it is time to say something.
Rick, I can sympathise with you, we have a couple of Centrex's like your Century's and many years ago when still learning I thought it would be nice to clean the inside of the sight glass while the projector was running. Little did I realize just how close those double shutters are to the outside until they sliced through the end of my finger, fingernail and all. OUCH! Just the other day I stopped one of my fellow projectionists just in time from sticking a screwdriver through a spinning Cinemaccannica shutter to lift a broken zipper which was down, that would have been nasty.

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Michael Pace
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I worked at the Redcliffe Drive-in (Just north of Brisbane, Queensland Australia) during the late '70's early '80's. The print of Private Benjamin arrived with the tails of spools 3 & 4 reversed. As I had checked the part numbers at the tail end I had not put time into checking the heads so I did not find out about the spool screening out of order until a patron suggested that there was something amiss with the film.

It had ran the Thursday and Friday nights this way and was corrected in time for the Saturday night session.

Also had a print slide off the side of the platter one night around about 20 minutes from the end of the show. It took me only 20 minutes to get it back onto the platter to enable me to finish the performance. The biggest problem was that the bio box had an observation window for the patrons to have a look at the projection equipment and there was quite an audience at that window while I was picking up the film.

And the only reason that projectionists put the film in the projector the wrong way and have the sound-track appear on the screen is so that the hearing impaired are able to read the sound. I use this when the trainee stuffs up once again.

Regards to all.

The weather in Townsville is magnificent.


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Greg Kristopik
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Taking down a print of the General's Daughter. Ring came out and film went FLYING off the platter.

The WORST mess you have EVER seen. How long did it take to fix? From about 2:00 to 2:30.
Oh wait, that's PM to AM!

I gave up after a while and just started randomly splicing stuff together to get it the hell out of there.

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John Pytlak
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Greg --- tough situation.

I know it's hard to take responsibility, but I do hope that you informed the exchange and distributor that the print had spilled, and needed to be cleaned/rewashed before the next booking. Otherwise, the next theatre would have a real mess on their hands with a dirty print full of splices.

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Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
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Jason Black
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I guess my biggest mistake would have been the time I built School Ties 1,2,5,4,3. The kicker is the fact that it was screened by an employee and ran for TWO nights before one of my friends stopped in to see it. Before they left they stopped by to talk to me about it, telling me how something *had* to be wrong with the buildup (they knew terminolgy becaus they were good friends of mine and had sat and watched be build/break films many times). I had not rec'd ONE complaint from anyone else about it, but I looked into it myself, only to find that reels 3 & 5 had been labeled wrong from the previous theatre.. Had it all corrected and re-screened for the first AM show on Sunday.

I don't know which is worse, the fact that *I* did it, or the fact that no-one else noticed.....

PS.. the great thing about being a 16 plex first run --- receiving used prints is a rarity!

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