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Paul G. Thompson
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I still wish the Brenkert was made - to the same specs as they were in the 40's. My favorite of the Brenkerts was the BX-80. The latest model of the Brenkert was the BX-100, and I think the last BX-100 was built in 1952. Maybe Brad knows. But since I am an old carbon arc man, my favorites are Brenkert, Simplex E-7, and Simplex XL.

Sound heads? RCA MI-9030 and the Simplex SH-1000 were the best! (if you add a drop of oil now and then to the gear box).

Speaking of which----when you check the oil levels of the gearbox in the RCA's and SH-1000's and SH-1004's, please make sure you break the vacuum lock when you do it. Especially the RCA's. Then let the oil settle to it's true level and add oil as necessary. Then let it settle again....and again...I usually force feed them. If they become too full, all you will have is a mess on the floor the next morning. It is much better than a stripped gear and bearings that feel like someone poured Poly-Grip into them...


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Paul G. Thompson
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I made those platter rings about 7 years ago and used them. They worked beautiful. I made mine out of an aluminum band. I regret I did not patent them, as that costed money I did not have, not to mention the red tape and hoops that I would have to jump through to get them patented. The ones I made are still in use today.

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Jeff Stricker
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Paul, I really like my Brenkert BX-40's. I used to run a pair in the carbon arc days of the '60's. I'm sure they aren't as steady as top of the line modern equipment, but they are indeed rugged, perfect for home theater, and will still be working long after I'm gone!

BTW No carbon arcs at home.

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John Pytlak
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Some good testimonials for the use of platter rings to restrain the film roll to prevent "platter fling". Might be something the platter manufacturers would like to offer as an option. Pat? Bevan? Gene? Or maybe Kelmar? Teco?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Jeff,
You will probably find that your BX-40's are steadier than most modern new projectors. New Kinoton and Century being the exception here.
Best,
Mark

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Peter Martin
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Kinoton and Cinemeccanica are probably the best projectors overall. Ugly as sin, but mechanically sound, simple, very reliable and usually provide a good steady picture. US-made projectors all seem to suffer from annoying little problems that, considering how long they have been around, should have been ironed out years ago. Like how long did it take Christie to get around to trying to fix the basement digital soundhead problems? And they're still not right!

As for sound, we have installed quite a number of CP500s and probably 50% have had some kind of fault either on installation or shortly thereafter. However I am not surprised to hear other techs say they have not had any problems. Many of the CP500 problems are intermittent and therefore not apparent all the time and tend to get overlooked, or are not noticed, by projectionists and technicians because they do not get the opportunity to stay in the auditorium for very long at a time. It is the poor suffering audiences that have to cope with the annoying glitches.

Unlike analogue processors, the CP500 suffers from really weird stuff - like in one cinema the sound kept going to a delayed echo effect. When we took a closer listen, the centre was staying constant but the left and right screen channels would start to emit dialogue about 20mS delayed behind the centre. This would come and go throughout the movie. Really annoying. Maybe Dolby just send all their crap to Australia.

It is great shame that Panastereo is not widely available in the USA. Now THAT is a beautiful sounding cinema processor, but probably a bit too expensive for most el cheapo cinema chains in the USA. Also I think they are distributed in the US by Smart who would have to make the crappiest cinema processors since the Eprad. Not a good marketing move on Panastereo's part.



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Paul G. Thompson
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Jeff, those BX-40's you have are a very good machine. But man, those things weigh a ton! I think they were cast iron cases, where the BX-60, BX-62, BX-80, and BX-100 were cast aluminum. But, all of those Brenkerts are fondly loved in the drive-in theaters. No matter how rottin' the film was, they passed through the old Brenkerts almost perfectly. I once made a loop and literally cut out one side of the film's sprocket perfs (about 6 inches worth) and it went right through a BX-80 successfully for 18 passes before it finally broke. Try that with a Century or a Simplex. You'll be lucky if you got one pass out of it.

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Gordon McLeod
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Actually the Motiograph AAA could run film that had very little left to it flawlessly

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Randy Stankey
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Once I was running some trailers as a test for the bosses and once I was done I went to break them down. I put it on the rewinder and about half way through the reel, the film snapped. I thought, "What the F***!" Upon examination I found that earlier on I had just taped the film together "temporarily" and put it away to be broken down later. I grabbed that reel for the test and just played it without thinking. It stayed in frame and everything.

It was in a Simplex PR-1003. I never even thought about it until after I was done running it! Probably a one-in-a-million shot, though.

Actually, I tell people that this proves that my CRAPPY work is better than some people's GOOD work!

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Jeff Stricker
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Paul, You're absolutely right, these Brenkerts weigh a ton and a half. Just ask my poor wife (aka "workhorse) who helped me move these minsters around during refurbishing and reassambly onto the soundheads!!

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Paul G. Thompson
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Jeff, if you dropped a Brenkert BX-40, it would not stop until it reached China

Anyway, last time I looked in my storage shed, I had a bunch of carbons. How good they are - I don't know. You pay the postage, I'll probably give them to you. (maybe) Ain't I nasty?

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Paul G. Thompson
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Gordon, those old MOCHEES were nobody's fool. There are still several in operation that I know of here in Washington State. And, they are running great! Personally, I really don't care for them too much, as they are a ***** to work on. I understand parts for those things are very scarce now, unless Wolk still supports them.

There is one machine that is REALLY a pile of garbage - and those were the old military surplus Devry's. I can't recall the model No., but supposedly, was a "portable". All you needed was a pedistal to set it on and a lamphouse. Probably the reason they were portable is so the operator could carry them to the dumpster - That's where they belong! And, I think that's where they probably all are - in landfills. The last one I saw was about 10 years ago.


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John Walsh
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I felt that V8's handled damaged film well, because of the larger sprockets and the "no tension" soundhead.

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Jeff Stricker
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Paul, thanks for the offer of the carbons. However, I've been out of that loop for about 40 years! I'll bet someone on this forum is still buring them and can use them. Jeff

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Darryl Spicer
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Well, I have worked with various types of equipment. I have used the following.

Century
pro 35's
westar
simplex

I currently use the simplex 1050's with five star soundheads. speco platter systems and cfs consoles. (yes I work for Cinemark). I definitly like the simplex projectors. Platters run great. Consoles run good but I know they could be better. I use the older type consoles 11 years old so they don't have as many problems as the others. Here is a piece of advice for all of you who use these consoles. If your lead wires for the diodes still have the red and blue sleeves over them get rid of them. All they are doing is causing heat to build up on the diodes causing them to short out. This could greatly reduce your diode changes. Also if you are in the habbit of changing the power tap settings as the bulb ages try leaving it at one setting and stop moving it. We have found that it stresses the diodes among other problems.

Well, this is my first post. Hope I didn't ramble on to long.

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