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Topic: "2001:A Space Odyssey" re-issue
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John Pytlak
Film God
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 04-30-2001 03:29 PM
I disagree! The lists compiled by Scott Norwood and Thomas Hauerslev show many fine theatres still have 70mm capability. With a bit of "tune up" (e.g., 70mm DTS, theatre alignment, scratch tests) and refreshing operator skills, there many theatres that could do an excellent job presenting 70mm today, and would jump at the chance:
http://www.redballoon.net/current70mmus.html
http://hjem.get2net.dk/in70mm/magazine/screenings.htm
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/reel/december98/pppp.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/reel/march99/pytlak.shtml ------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 09:51 PM
Is "2001: A Space Odyssey" confirmed at this date for 70mm DTS release here in the United States? I can certainly see the advantages for using DTS on 70mm (simplicity on setup and operation, lower print costs for no mag striping). However, I wonder just how many theaters still equipped for 70mm projection have compatible equipment for 70mm DTS.The closest place to my town possibly capable for showing "2001" in 70mm DTS would be the Hollywood Theatres Penn Square Mall 10 in Oklahoma City. They have 70mm capability in the one THX auditorium; however, their DTS unit is one of the original white and blue 2-drive units. My understanding was DTS 70mm required a DTS-6D player or DTS-6AD Cinema Processor for compatibility with the 70mm reader. If that is the case, then a number of 70mm theaters that installed DTS early on could be possibly cut out of the loop. Even outside of that, I don't think very many traditional 70mm houses have the 70mm DTS readers either. Don't they cost around $1,300 (as compared to the $700 or $800 for the 35mm reader)? Mag stripe audio with Dolby SR can sound incredible. I was fortunate enough to see a few 70mm SR shows when I lived in New York. For instance, I was really blown away by the sound quality of "Born on the Fourth of July" with its 70mm SR showing at the Ziegfeld at the end of 1989. The DVD on the otherhand just sounds kind of flat. Dolby SR mag has dynamic range of 22 decibels above reference, which is better than the 20db of gain you get with 16-bit digital. I really hope "2001" is supported by a decent number of 70mm prints. I don't think 10 prints or 15 prints is enough for this landmark film. I just hope some 70mm prints are booked in some quality theaters in Texas or Oklahoma so I don't miss it. When "2001" is released, I certainly want to see the 70mm end of it promoted well in the ad work.
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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!
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From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 04-30-2001 10:37 PM
>>My understanding was DTS 70mm required a DTS-6D player or DTS-6AD Cinema Processor for compatibility with the 70mm reader. If that is the case, then a number of 70mm theaters that installed DTS early on could be possibly cut out of the loop.<<All you need for DTS 70mm is a 70mm reader and *ANY* DTS unit (Even the DTS-6). It is *highly* recommended that two readers and drive units be used for failsafe redundancy, but given the extreme robustness of the DTS70 track I would think its not THAT necessary... Has anyone who has projected DTS70 had a timecode dropout or other failure requiring the second reader/unit to come in? Aaron
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John Wilson
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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 04-30-2001 11:41 PM
One of my projectionists had problems with Vertigo where the dts seemed to not get up to speed and was also out of sync for the first few minutes. On testing the next morning it all ran fine. Ain't that the way? For 300 plus patrons...problems...for little ol' me...perfect. And it sounded and looked fantastic. Our surrounds (in those days) were so good that in the cemetary scene where the birds tweet in the surround channel, I actually believed we had a bird in the ceiling of the theatre. From what I hear, that theatre now sounds like shit. ------------------
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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-07-2001 10:20 AM
For those interested in the UK, 2001 is now playing at the Curzon Soho Shaftsbury Avenue London in
35mm. Pity not 70mm as the Curzon Soho 3 screen is in the shell of the Columbia which had Philips DP70s where I had the pleasure of running many 70mm epics during my freelance days.I believe this same equipment was re-installed at the Filmhouse Richmond and could still be in use today.
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John Wilson
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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 05-13-2001 03:54 AM
>>70mm 6 track mag prints of 2001 commence at The Astor Theatre here downunder next week for a 2 week season<<This is not a new print. It's about 5 years old and has registration problems. See earlier in this thread for more info.
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though: out of focus and a frameline showing for the first few minutes, the Academy plate seriously undercut, houselights left on the low setting throughout the feature and an almighty 'crack' on the soundtrack every time a reel change join went through.
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