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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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 - posted 02-23-2003 09:49 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
GOD PAUL!

That was way over the "safe" OSHA limitations.... [Big Grin]

>>> Phil

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

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 - posted 02-23-2003 10:21 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
SPL weighting curves are very important as they do take frequency weighting into account so a dbc or dba curve is an absolute measurment with that response taken into account

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Bill Langfield
Master Film Handler

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From: Prospect, NSW, Australia
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 - posted 02-24-2003 11:46 AM      Profile for Bill Langfield   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Langfield   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
(This will get a responce, and I know from who, If he reads it)

Forget M-16's, Car Stereo's and LOUD MOVIES.

I think I'm going deaf from sitting on my ass in cinema 3 bio 7 hours a day 6 feet from the projector doing those damned cross words that come in the paper that I read 'head to tail' instead of top and and tailing the new trailers.

Seriously though, Anyone else think with AirCon / Extraction / Projectors there might be an effect on your hearing?

Because several of our projection rooms require us to go through the lobby/foyer areas, an usher will say somethime to me while waiting for a film to to finish, and I will have have to get them to repeat it sometimes 3 times.

My actual hearing is fine, I have a unrestricted private pilot's licence, and being over 30 have to get a medical every year, each time I ask about my hearing and each time they say it's perfect. So I just don't get it.

Perhaps when I have been in my fav cinema 3 for TOO long the hearing has dulled, like when you've been in bright sunlight sneaking a smoke an the roof, then can't see a thing trying to thread up the next session. Luckily I can lace up with my eyes shut. But I still triple check when I can see again. [Smile]

Bill.

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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
Boardwalk Hotel?"

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From: Boston, MA
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 - posted 02-24-2003 03:16 PM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
I could not hit a bull in the ass with a bass fiddle!
Paul, I just wanted to let you know that since I play the bass myself, I am deeply offended by this shameless remark!
When will all this mindless and hateful bass bashing ever stop?
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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 - posted 02-24-2003 03:37 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually, that phrase was coined by Admiral Nimitz years ago...

Tell you what I'll do for you, Michael. I'll change it to "Cello" - how's that?

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Barry Martin
Expert Film Handler

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From: Newington, CT USA
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 - posted 02-24-2003 06:12 PM      Profile for Barry Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Barry Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Not that I am an expert on medical issues, but I do remember watching a documentary on hearing and how we hear, etc. Of course, we start "losing our hearing" from the day we are born. The tiny hair cells in the ear which are the main component in hearing die off everyday. Loud noises can damage cells faster, so the truth is there is no "safe" level. There is just "worse" damage, or "faster" damage. I would think the scales doctors use are just figured on average cell loss compared to the expected duration of perfect hearing. e.g. you have "X" cells to start with, lose "Y" cells per day and you will have good hearing for "Z" years. Kay, I'm starting to confuse myself now, so I'm going to shut up. [Confused] [Razz]

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Bruce McGee
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From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
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 - posted 02-25-2003 12:08 PM      Profile for Bruce McGee   Email Bruce McGee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A couple of years back, we discussed loud theatre sound here on F-T. I had a friend living here that was a professional rock guitar player. He was always aware of where the speakers on stage were placed. Plus, he always wore ear protection that I got him. We had discussions on theatre sound, and the feeling of wanting to sleep. I remember sleeping through most of "Return Of The Jedi" the first time that I saw it. I wasn't tired, but the constant blasting of sound made me sleepy. My friend had the same thoughts on loud sound.

My friend the rocker can play some ear-splitting licks with his guitar, but since he takes care of his ears, he can hear just about anything. I like to think that I had something to do with his continuing good hearing.

I work in the video duplicating business and listen to my Sony HSP-800, A, B sprinters hissing 12 hours a day. At first, I wore no protection. Soon, I noticed that I had problems hearing when I got home. Now, I wear ear plugs, and no longer have to raise the volume when I get home.

Guys, be good to your ears. They're the only ones you have!

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Duncan Smith
Film Handler

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 - posted 02-25-2003 01:54 PM      Profile for Duncan Smith   Email Duncan Smith   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Intersting point raised earlier. I got myself one of those $30 radio shack SPL meters a few months ago for my home theatre line up. I brought it into work to lend to a colleague and while it was here I measured the SPL of the Century's here while running a show with the monitor turned off. It was 96 dB constantly, which is a bit worrying I guess. That was on a C weighted scale I think.

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Don E. Nelson
Expert Film Handler

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Paul,
I said I was hard of hearing, there's nothing wrong with my 20/15 vision.

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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Oh. [Big Grin]

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Chris Wootten
Film Handler

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From: Moonlit Cinema, RAAF Tindal, N.T. Australia
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 - posted 02-26-2003 06:54 AM      Profile for Chris Wootten   Email Chris Wootten   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well guys, I am currently IN the military (OZ) and the brass has only just discovered OH&S over the last couple of years. I get out age retired in 18 months. I have defective hearing due to the crap hearing protection I was issued while refueling A/c with APU's operating 10 feet away. I get really annoyed when I attend a cinema and the volume has been turned unnecessarily too loud. It spoils the whole experience. [Confused]

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System Notices
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It has been 870 days since the last post.


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Andy Summers
Master Film Handler

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From: Bournemouth Dorset United kingdom
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The US navy play there LFA at 240db, not good for marine life if you all get my meaning, however with the Odeon screen #1 Westover Road Bournemouth, with its new DTS XD-10 and “Batman Begins” in poor sounding with Altec A4 too bright no sub bass and too bright poor surrounds from piss poor positioning of JBL 8330 too bright and watching the SPL at close to 100dba weighting too bright and very stupid projectionists if you ask me clearly don’t know about safety issues.

So won’t be going there until there get it correctly done, god dame donkeys….

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

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Andy are you trying to set the record for bringing back old topics [Smile]

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