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Author Topic: Anti Piracy Trailer Disappointing John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-24-2003 12:13 PM                        A bit of humor and better production values would go a long way in improving the acceptance of these types of trailers. A lame or obviously low budget production sends the wrong message. For frequent moviegoers, seeing the same trailer many times soon gets very stale. I'd like to see what a Steven Spielberg, Mel Brooks, or Joe Redifer could produce.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-24-2003 01:00 PM                        Well my production might be a bit too violent (comically) to be shown on all types of movies, but it would be effective. Also it would be shot on video which would NOT be good, unless someone wants to loan me a 65mm camera and show me how to use it!  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-24-2003 03:13 PM                        quote: Also it would be shot on video which would NOT be good, unless someone wants to loan me a 65mm camera and show me how to use it! That's where the creativity comes in! Produce it on DV to show how BAD those pirated videos will look.  |  IP: Logged Don E. Nelson Expert Film Handler Posts: 138 From: Brentwood, CA, USA Registered: Nov 2001 posted 07-24-2003 03:27 PM                     I looked up the definition of piracy, and what is happening in the show and music biz is not taking place on the high seas or are they, in most cases, stealing the original product. Copying something of worth is called counter fitting. That is why there are no counter fit pennys, they have very little worth. The old counterfitting laws are geared towards illegal duplication of hard currency and not dvd copies of The Hulk or the latest cd of Christina Aguliarararara (sp?) So lets get the pirate mentality out of the picture and get the federales to start going after the DVD,film,& music counterfitters and bootleggers. They have been looking for pirates all these years on land and they are all on the open high seas in their boats. with flags and attitude. Come on Hollywood, the key is to make a worthless product, that nobody wants and then there will be no counterfitting, what,...... oh, .....thats already what you do, oh then its the people who buy this stuff that make it worth some thing. Then its my fault that Hollywood has this problem, so i have to change. Ok, I can do that, from now on I am not going to buy any more music, movies or cd's/ That should solve the problem, the industry will go away and so will the problem. Great logic ,.....Hollywood, ...when you start putting out stuff people want to own an original copy of, then the counterfitting will stop. The product is what you are selling, not the medium, you are trying to protect the medium and forgetting all about the product.  |  IP: Logged Travis Hubrig Expert Film Handler Posts: 175 From: Minot ND, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 07-24-2003 04:02 PM                     There used to be a commercial out that linked using drugs to supporting terrorism. Has anyone seen this? I think we could use the set worker to link piracy to supporting terrorism, by linking him to drugs... He gets fewer jobs due to piracy so he looks for other income to support his family... Say he's selling drugs to movie stars on the set... He's getting his drugs from terrorists that are getting money for weapons... it could go anywhere from there  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-24-2003 10:17 PM                     Wow, those trailers ARE lame! I just got my copies in today. For those not working in theaters or who won't be attending anytime soon, here is a bootleg copy in Quicktime format you can download and watch. (Thanks to Joe for compressing the video for the internet. )  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-25-2003 05:54 AM                        Legitimate copies of the trailers are already available on the "Respect Copyrights" website: http://www.respectcopyrights.org/hear-artists.html Although you might argue as to the effectiveness, this education program is being supported by the craft guilds and unions who represent the filmmakers hurt by piracy / counterfeiting: http://www.dga.org/index2.php3?chg= http://www.iatse.lm.com/ http://www.editorsguild.com/ http://new.sag.org/sagWebApp/index.jsp http://www.wga.org/  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-25-2003 06:08 AM                  >>>Phil  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-25-2003 06:18 AM                        Last night at the theatre, we got a print of "The Housekeeper" which was brand-new and shipped (on cores) in a cardboard box directly from the lab to the theatre. TES shipped (separately) two of their tradmark beat-up orange chans with empty reels inside for us to use when returning the print. This is all fine and dandy, but the amusing part was that TES had bothered to use those white "tamper proof" seals on the can latches. Were they afraid that someone was going to open the cans in transit and somehow pirate those empty reels?  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 07-25-2003 06:33 AM                        Make sure you re-apply the "tamper proof" seals to the cardboard box when you're done with the print.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-25-2003 06:45 AM                     Awwwwww John, you ruined my test with that fake bootleg download by providing a link to a real legitimate download. I wanted to see how many people would accept the convenience of a bootleg that only required them to click the mouse, rather than going out to a theater to see it. It would've been one heck of an interesting point of convenience if the downloads were at a high percentage of people viewing that page, especially since the whole discussion is about preventing bootlegging and the damage it does.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-25-2003 09:45 AM                        Sorry, Brad. But I had already provided that link to the legitimate downloads very early on July 23, in the fifth posting in this thread. BTW, how did Joe make the "bootleg" copy? (Looks like he may have some previous experience)  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 07-25-2003 11:33 AM                        quote: Copying something of worth is called counter fitting. Actually it is called counterfeiting.  |  IP: Logged Pete Lawrence Expert Film Handler Posts: 192 From: Middleburg, PA Registered: Aug 1999 posted 07-25-2003 11:34 AM                     There is also a TV campaign now running against movie piracy. I saw the "commercial" on two different cable channels last night, one being AMC. The TV version I saw is far better in terms of content and production values. What's that tell you??? If the "movie going experience" was being improved instead of degraded on a regular basis, and ticket prices were more in line with the overall quality of the product, piracy wouldn't be worth anyone's time or effort.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-25-2003 11:34 AM                        Did you download it John?  |  IP: Logged

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