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Author Topic: DTS discs not arriving with Prints Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 10-30-2007 11:21 PM                     quote: Frank Angel And theatres that don't sent them back with the prints are not getting charged this amount plus a replacement fee because......? Because you left out: quote: Mike Blakesley At least in the beginning I'm not saying it's good that prints get sent back w/o discs but it sure seems like DTS isn't gonna charge people a $100 replacement fee when now the discs have a practically meaningless cost to them. The discs themselves likely are worth pennies to DTS. And that could be another reason DTS switched away from sending discs in the "reel" shaped thing like they did in the past; they might see the reel as costing more money to make than simply sending replacements for the broken discs.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Dieter Expert Film Handler Posts: 234 From: Yakima, WA Registered: Jun 2004 posted 10-31-2007 04:32 PM                     I've got a question for Daniel: Is it possible for DTS when making their DTS trailer discs that each trailer code is in a folder for potential exhibitors to make their own? Working in the subrun industry, many times we don't play what comes in the cans cause, well, there aren't any. Along with that, many of the titles on the discs are to far out for us to use, or to far spread apart. Here's my problem. This week we get the following movies in; Underdog and Mr. Woodcock. Here are the trailer line ups for these titles out of what we have to play. Underdog Mr. Bean's Holiday Final Season Bee Movie Mr. Woodcock Rush Hour 3 The Comebacks Fred Clause Now generally we don't play trailers for movies that aren't released yet, but cause of the distributors being so anal about how many trailers go to a theatre, and when subruns are allowed to order and get materials, we are stuck with these choices. Out of all the DTS trailer discs that I have saved, starting from June, and ending in October, there was only one that had most of the trailers for both these movies and that was July 6th's. If it were possible for DTS to store the Trailer information on the disc to be copied and burned to another disc so that we could mix and match the discs this would be extremely helpful. Is there any hope for posting this and having something happen, or have I wasted my time?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 10-31-2007 06:54 PM                     Thomas, you can do this one since the files on the disc are DOS files: throw your discs in a computer and copy those trailer files in a created directory, plus all of the executable files from any one disc. Then, burn your own trailer disc with the needed files as long as the other files to make the disc run is on that burnt disc.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Dieter Expert Film Handler Posts: 234 From: Yakima, WA Registered: Jun 2004 posted 10-31-2007 07:01 PM                     Monte, There is nothing there but the following things. DTS Folder Preview Text Log R14T4.AUD R14TRLR Text Log DTS EXE. What am I missing to do this?  |  IP: Logged Blaine Young Master Film Handler Posts: 477 From: Kirkland, WA, USA Registered: Sep 2006 posted 10-31-2007 07:38 PM                     You can actually extract the trailer audio off the disc and compile your own. I do this every week on features that play in the house with a 2-drive DTS-6 unit. I copy the contents of the disc with the trailer reel (typically "A", but sometimes it's on "B" - like "The Kingdom"), extract out the 'attached trailers', and then 'splice' in the additional trailers extracted from other feature discs, or from the trailer disc. I then burn the new disc to a CDRW (I use TDK) and there you go. Next week, I repeat the process and reuse the same CDRW disc. There is a program to do this under the "Manuals" section. You can also do a search under this forum for "How Do I Compile A Custom DTS Trailer Disc?" (forgive me - I can't figure out how to embed a thread link).  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 10-31-2007 08:10 PM                     Hi again Thomas - Here is that program that Blaine's talking about.. ...and for Blaine: here is that embedded topic which also includes the above program for Thomas. Also, thx for setting the story straight on how to make your own trailer discs from compilations of captured files. - thx .. Monte  |  IP: Logged Markus Lemm Expert Film Handler Posts: 113 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: Nov 2005 posted 11-02-2007 03:33 PM                        Any feedback you guys have on my DTS Extractor program would be greatly appreciated. Any features you would like added would be nice to know as well.  |  IP: Logged Blaine Young Master Film Handler Posts: 477 From: Kirkland, WA, USA Registered: Sep 2006 posted 11-02-2007 03:46 PM                     Markus, sent you a mail about the "continue disc" function adding the header to the file again, causing the 'offset' to be incorrect.  |  IP: Logged Andrew Maddison Film Handler Posts: 13 From: Coventry, West Midlands, UK Registered: Sep 2007 posted 11-21-2007 08:40 AM                     We (a student cinema in the UK) used to have problems getting any DTS discs with prints. We even had an argument with Buena Vista when we wanted to run Armageddon in DTS (we didn't have much of a choice in the matter because we were running the 70mm version!), and they kept telling us we'd be able to use the Dolby Digital track on the print. They didn't believe us when we told them there isn't any other sound format on a 70mm DTS print! Eventually, they sent some discs. Unfortunately they sent the 35mm DTS discs - and the 70mm print of Armageddon has a sound sync error on reel 1 meaning the sound is very very noticeably out of sync. A very nice person at DTS UK sent us a copy of the correct disc for reel 1 (and also sent us a 70mm DTS trailer, as no-one else in the UK had any stock!). The problem has been reduced now that Deluxe have changed to plastic transit cases - there's a bit more space for a DTS disc case in the box, but they invariably arrive cracked with the discs scratched. The yellow piece of plastic used to be useless in the UK as Rank used green plastic transit cases that *only* had space for 6 reels (3 compartments carrying 2 reels each) and including the DTS disc carrier with a 6 reel film would have made the film require 2 transit cases. Nowadays there are red plastic expandable cases, and the yellow plastic carrier would work much better than the current "solution" - and as a previous poster said it would be a handy reminder to send the disc(s) back! Personally, I'm not much of a fan of DTS - I don't know whether it's because of it being a 5 channel sound system (the sub being derived from the surround channels, leaving the surrounds a little tinny on occassion) or because of problems we've had running old films on it (we showed Jurassic Park a couple of years ago - it had the timecode on the print, and we got hold of the 6-channel DTS discs for it, and yet there's no way of convincing the 6D to play an old DTS title in DTS, whereas The Fugitive ran fine in Dolby Digital!). PS - sorry that my first post on here is so long!!  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 11-21-2007 02:46 PM                     5 channel sound system? What am I missing here?  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 11-21-2007 03:34 PM                        Richard: there is no subwoofer channel on dts. Louis  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 11-21-2007 04:38 PM                     Thanks Louis. I can't believe I never knew that.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-21-2007 04:51 PM                     Well, more accurately...there is no discrete subwoofer or surround channel on the theatrical 5.1 DTS system. The subwoofer is convolved onto the Left-Surround and Right Surround channels. Upon playback, the Ls and Rs channels go though a filter to strip the subwoofer information off of them and feed them to the sub and keep the surrounds from blowing apart. It is a shame that the system lives with this legacy to this day since the "SV" versions of the old players had the 6th decoder chip to handle 6-discrete channels and the XD-10 can handle 10-channels out of the box and 20-channels with an upgrade board (if they bothered to impliment it yet...seen many 20-channel films yet? ). Steve  |  IP: Logged

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