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Topic: Hey you, you suck! (AKA: Outing bad film handlers) Part 2
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Randy Stankey
Film God
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-01-2006 10:21 PM
So, then, we're saying, "I hate it when people don't twist the film the right way." ??
I can see how, when breaking down, it would be easy for a greenhorn to forget (or not know better) and twist the film any which-way when breaking down, thus creating a random wind orientation between every reel of the print. But, I see that as rather minor... sorry.
Sure. If your projector is finicky about the way the film is/has been wound it would make a difference. If your booth setup dictates the use of one orientation over another it makes a difference. If you are a stickler about doing things a certain way it makes a difference. But, over the long haul, haven't we agreed that the answer to the question of winding orientation is, "Your Mileage May Vary." ??
The one caveat being that some MUTs risk damage to the film if it isn't routed through the rollers the right way, but for personal preference, there isn't much difference at all. Is there?
Except for the fact that the table is too small to work on and that there are casters on only one end, I actually LIKE my Strong/Potts MUT.
I guess what I'm saying is, "I'm sorry. I don't get it."
No matter which way the film is shipped to me, I can get it onto the platter in the final orientation I choose simply bey twisting the film one way or the other. No matter what way the film is oriented on the platter I can get it onto the shipping reels in the way I choose, also, by twisting the film.
It doesn't matter which way the mandrel spins. Does it?
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Charles Greenlee
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 801
From: Savannah, Ga, U.S.
Registered: Jun 2006
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posted 11-02-2006 07:33 PM
Likewise, we have a DM (Strong) MUT, and it doesn't metter to me whether it's emulsion in or out. I just hate it when I get mixed heads/tails. Either make them all heads or all tails. However, now that I'm at Regal, we build from the shipping reels to the 6k reels, and then dump from them to the platter, so once again even if there were a problem with emulsion in/out, it's surely be solved at the build table, and the MUT wouldn't know the difference. Personally, when I break down, I always break down with the soundtrack up, and with heads out, all of them, even if they were mixed coming in. If you receive a print from me, and it's not your preferred format, sorry, at least the reels will be consistant for you.
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Hillary Charles
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 748
From: York, PA, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-09-2006 07:47 AM
Saw a double feature of "Dial M For Murder" and "North By Northwest" at the local arthouse. Two projector set-up, and a new adventure at every reel change.
At one point, the show was stopped because the reel was threaded in backwards, and for a few seconds we could watch the soundtrack on the right side. It's probably a very good idea to make sure the leader isn't spliced onto the film the wrong way (if that was the reason, and not just simple carelessness).
Once during each movie, I had to tell someone to focus the image. I was told "it's the film" but lo and behold, each time, the image was focused, and acceptable for the duration of the reel. This continued to a greater or lesser extent for the whole show. Some reels were actually focused after the change and stayed in focus! Imagine that.
Every single time we go there, we have to tell someone about the focus, and on more than one occasion, we're told "it's the film." The fact that the image could subsequently actually be focused is a clear indication that the problem isn't the film but the film handler.
I was the only one to say something about the focus, and I later wrote them an email in the hopes that they'll improve their presentation. Since I didn't get a reply, I guess my decision to stay away for good is probably best for my blood pressure.
I'm so glad they didn't try to run "Dial M" in 3-D!
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(lol) .. This is to support Brad's comment above and where I can obviously tell that there are some clowns out there who DO NOT know how to wind film using a Christie MK35 MUT - being this is the end with the tail leader ACTUALLY was wound Edison style on the reel, but the film being flipped.
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