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Steven J Hart
Master Film Handler

Posts: 282
From: WALES, ND, USA
Registered: Mar 2004

posted 02-15-2006 07:24 AM

Brad Miller Says:

quote: Brad Miller
Should I try and reword this again, or do you understand how the concept works?

My favorite thing about posting on this site is that I have a knack for getting flamed by Brad for (apparently) being a total idiot. [evil]

Yes dear Brad, can you please explain it to me again. I just don't understand your lofty concepts. [evil]

Steve

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Louis Bornwasser
Film God

Posts: 4441
From: prospect ky usa
Registered: Mar 2005

posted 02-15-2006 08:48 AM

Just to add my "Amen" to the above.....I might not want to see anymore "NEW" customers, especially those who look like dealers or service people.

Maybe this is why I occasionally get multiple out-of-focus pictures of Ron Purtee on this web site(?)

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Sam D. Chavez
Film God

Posts: 2153
From: Martinez, CA USA
Registered: Aug 2003

posted 02-15-2006 11:16 AM

Ah Ron Purte. He has owed BACP $4,000 plus for over three years now. This started out at a $10,000 debt and was slowly worked down with a number of trades. The problem was finding something of quality he had in stock to trade for. I settled on cleaning out the RP40 and Buzz Track he had in stock. I'm not interested in bogus Film Lube or Sankor lenses so what's a fella to do?

He walks up to me at each trade show, and without prompting, proceeds to tell me he is going to pay up. Of course he has not.

Someday, there be a unit of deadbeat called a Purte in the dictionary with his picture by it.

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Paul Goulet
Master Film Handler

Posts: 347
From: Rhode Island
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 02-15-2006 11:25 AM

Hasn't this been beaten like a dead horse here?: Thats not filmguard!

quote: Steven J Hart
My favorite thing about posting on this site is that I have a knack for getting flamed by Brad for (apparently) being a total idiot. Yes dear Brad, can you please explain it to me again. I just don't understand your lofty concepts.

AMEN AMEN..

Meanwhile you have real interesting posts like:

Do you pee in the shower?

Do you look before you flush?

What's next?: "when you wipe your ass, do you go from front to back or back to front?"

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Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 02-15-2006 02:41 PM

Steven, sometimes light humorous sarcasm doesn't work too well in the text translation, but my end point still remains that anyone who does business in this manner is a deadbeat. It doesn't matter how nice of a person he may appear to be, your standing up for him doesn't change anything. The fact that people are getting taken by these guys and yet you don't seem to have a problem with it is insulting to everyone affected.

Sam, fortunately you didn't get taken for too much initially and you managed to get things worked out. There are a bunch of companies who are owed $10k, $20k, $50k and up by Purtee.

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Sam D. Chavez
Film God

Posts: 2153
From: Martinez, CA USA
Registered: Aug 2003

posted 02-15-2006 04:41 PM

Brad,

I'm aware of most of CPI's creditors. The amount unfortunately does not justify going after him too hard. He still has some good customers but I would think all the vendors are well aware of him.

I could have taken the route of not releasing a future order without partial payment on the last, but this gets old after a while and I'd rather not have a customer than to have to put them on pre pay or COD.

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Frank Dubrois
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 896
From: Cleveland, OH
Registered: Mar 2005

posted 02-15-2006 08:11 PM

Maybe I'm not reading some of these posts correctly. There is a guy out there who isn't paying his invoices, but we shouldn't judge him to harshly? I think we should keep posting about him until he either pays up or has no one left to do business with.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-15-2006 08:16 PM

quote: Steven J Hart
As far as I know there is no one (within easy driving distance) offering service to our area.

We offer service in those areas! We have a tech that works for us that lives in Souix Falls,SD. He covers the central US States from TExas to N.D., It might save you some $$ having us rather than having him flying in from timbick two when he does a small series of calls... and then you don't see him for another year... and we are not that far away.... We also maintain close to a 200K parts and equipment inventory... thats something that just a few dealers can claim.

Mark

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Robert Burtcher
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 194
From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Registered: Jun 2005

posted 02-15-2006 08:28 PM

quote: Frank Dubrois
Maybe I'm not reading some of these posts correctly. There is a guy out there who isn't paying his invoices, but we shouldn't judge him to harshly? I think we should keep posting about him until he either pays up or has no one left to do business with.

Totally agreed. A deadbeat is a deadbeat, no matter how you slice it.

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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 02-15-2006 08:46 PM

Not to take away from Mark's offer by any means, but I know of a few techs who do a lot of work in that area. If you wish Steven I could see if they're looking for new customers and send you their info via email (or post it, but not without they're okay).

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Steven J Hart
Master Film Handler

Posts: 282
From: WALES, ND, USA
Registered: Mar 2004

posted 02-15-2006 09:06 PM

Mark, Dustin - Thanks for the offers. I take care of most all the maintenance in my booth myself. The one exception is the A chain alignment as I don't have a 'scope. My Century R5 has been rock solid so I haven't had a tech in my booth for a couple of years. Phone support and parts is about all I've ever needed to keep my equipment running good. Living up here in the Frozen Tundra I figure that if I want to put on a good show consistently I better know how to fix everything in the booth! (Amps and processors excluded but that's what spares are for)
Steve

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Robert Burtcher
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 194
From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Registered: Jun 2005

posted 02-16-2006 12:09 AM

Hey, Brad...

If CPI is selling a product under the FilmGuard name without your consent, and assuming you've registered the trademark "FilmGuard", can't you sue CPI for trademark infringement?

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Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 02-16-2006 04:01 AM

Yes, but their bottles do not say "FilmGuard" on them, even though they blatantly advertise it on their website here. The slimeball way around this is to not actually write "FilmGuard" on the bottles and claim they haven't been able to update their website (even though it's been 3 years). However if you call them up and order a bottle, they will fail to tell you that it is a knockoff and ship you that stuff instead. If you ask them if they will ship you genuine FilmGuard, then they will give you a pitch about how it is the exact same thing. This isn't the proper thread to be discussing things like this though and there is no sense in concentrating on one thing they are doing. CPI mis-represents pretty much everything they sell. Anyone buying from them or using their products are supporting criminals in many senses of the term, even if they haven't personally been burned.

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Frank Dubrois
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 896
From: Cleveland, OH
Registered: Mar 2005

posted 02-16-2006 12:18 PM

Its good that you mention this. Although I don't do business with them, I had NO IDEA they were doing that. If someone offered Filmguard, I would assume its Filmguard. Scumbags.

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Josh Jones
Redhat

Posts: 1207
From: Plano, TX
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 02-16-2006 12:31 PM

Steven,

britestar systems in the twin cities provides service to the dakotas. TJ Hopland, who is on the forum somewhere, is a tech and his dad runs the company. Mel is the guy who actually started MTS way back when. They are good people to deal with and have good service.

Josh

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