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Steve Scott
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 02-16-2006 02:02 PM      Profile for Steve Scott   Email Steve Scott   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
TJ Hopland & Tim Eilher both do service for B.S.S., they cover MSP, greater MN, WI, ND, SD & occasionally beyond. Bright Star is what remains of MTS nowadays.

Bright Star Systems
(952)-926-2009

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Ken McFall
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Haringey, London.
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 - posted 02-19-2006 08:52 AM      Profile for Ken McFall   Email Ken McFall   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Unfortunatly I know of a person/company who belongs on this list but as it's not my bussines that was affected I cannon jepordise any future legal action.

In the UK you have three years to bring a claim to court so it's too early to name and shame.... come the day

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John Eickhof
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 - posted 02-21-2006 05:15 PM      Profile for John Eickhof   Author's Homepage   Email John Eickhof   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the opportunity to expose RON PURTEE AGAIN!! I had closed for business two years ago and in order to settle a small debt of $3500 or so with CPI, Ron and I agreed to a trade of merchandise to pay off the debt! However, not only did he want enough to pay it in full but then requested more items from my inventory that amounted to approx $11,00.00 over the original debt! I packed and shipped over 7 tons of equipment to him in Nashville, Ron had personally guaranteed that he would zero out my amount due him and send payment on the rest (which I have invoices for ) Well..you can guess it..I still have never seen a penny! It even took him over 9 months to just stop sending me statements still showing that I owed him!! He was upset that the shipping cost (agreed to be paid by him) was approx $4,000.00 because his assistant listed the goods as 'electronic equipment' not as 'scrap' like I suggested thus the shipping rate was out of sight! So he apparently thinks that was too much! I have had an attorney contact him with no reply, thus my next move is to hire someone who will completely ruin his personal & business credit! At least this may wake him up!! ( if anything on principle alone!) I find it very disheartening when someone I have known for 20+ years as not only a friend but a business associate would do such a thoughtless thing! And blatently 'screw me over'! Plus he hammered down the 'trade to him' value to less than $0.15 / Dollar!! I really felt insulted!! But wanted to get things cleared up and some of my inventory moved out!! I emplore the honest folks who read this to avert their business to someone else or go ahead and charge up a bunch of stuff and send me the money and tell Ron to credit the debt he owes ME!! Thanks for letting me vent! By the by..he ended up with over 100 ISCO lenses, another 100 or so other lenses, several AW-3s , LP-270s, rectifiers & lamphouses up to 6K, and a pile of newer Balco platters and MUTs! Plus about 1200 lbs of NOS parts!! Boy, with friends like Ron, I sure don't need any enemies!! For you out there that are self employed..you know how a debt of $10k or so takes the wind right out of your sails! My family has suffered as a result of Ron's DEADBEAT attitude! And I personally will NEVER FORGIVE HIM FOR THAT and his conscience (if there is one) will get him in the end!!!

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Sam D. Chavez
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 - posted 02-21-2006 05:47 PM      Profile for Sam D. Chavez   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Don't sugarcoat it John. Tell us what you really think.

However, You are getting into dangerous territory encouraging people to charge up stuff with CPI and then defaulting. Not a good idea even in jest.

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Mike Spaeth
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From: Marietta, GA
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 - posted 02-21-2006 08:56 PM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wow - nobody has been screwed by the Duffy's of EFW fame? I know of several landlords that have been taken to the bank by them ...

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Louis Bornwasser
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From: prospect ky usa
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 - posted 02-22-2006 08:44 AM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have had nearly identical experiences with Brad on CPI (locally known as Cat Piss International). I would say more, but the lawyers have it. Louis

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John Eickhof
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Wendell, ID USA
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 - posted 02-22-2006 01:03 PM      Profile for John Eickhof   Author's Homepage   Email John Eickhof   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Sam! Thanks for the kind words? Anyway, I think I summed it up by saying 'the honest people' out there! In other words, I would trust their honesty would prevail and they would not actually do something like that, however, when I went up against the USFS last year the donations rolled in from around the world for my defense fund! I eventually prevailed in US District Court in Reno, NV. and the USFS spent over $90,000 trying to convict me of a $150.00 ticket!! So, CPI isn't the only one wasting peoples money around here! By the way, it was a preceedent setting case and I had 6 PRO-BONO lawyers at my side!

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Timothy Eiler
Expert Film Handler

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From: Litchfield , Minnesota, USA
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 - posted 02-23-2006 05:06 PM      Profile for Timothy Eiler   Author's Homepage   Email Timothy Eiler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John It good so see you here on the Board As I have Not heard From You Since You answered My e-mail on

Deleted private email - against site policies.

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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 - posted 02-23-2006 07:30 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Timothy, John's been busy running over bushes.. [Razz] [evil]

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 02-24-2006 02:59 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Timothy, this is NOT the thread for chit chat. Also the rules clearly state you may not post email addresses or private emails within the body of the posts.

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 02-24-2006 03:10 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Makes one wonder with companies like this if there shouldn't be a policy of "money first, then ship items" - so no one gets bit in the end.

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John Eickhof
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Wendell, ID USA
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 - posted 02-24-2006 10:34 AM      Profile for John Eickhof   Author's Homepage   Email John Eickhof   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ya know Monte..that should have been a sign to me..before I was going to ship all the big stuff to Purtee, I asked hime for payment in advance since I was trying to close out the company books..he answered 'John, you've known me for years, I'll send the check out as soon as I get the equipment and invoices' Ha Ha..I should have known then...but unfortunately, I am a trusting soul..oh well...Some of the vendors used to require a partial payment on order for larger equipment orders plus hey would give you an additional 'fas pay' credit too! On big jobs it could save a thousand or so!! It all adds up!!

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Louis Bornwasser
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Prepayment may well be our common future. I looked at credit cards, but in a non retail environment, there is insufficient markup to allow the fees. Louis

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Timothy Eiler
Expert Film Handler

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From: Litchfield , Minnesota, USA
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 - posted 02-24-2006 08:32 PM      Profile for Timothy Eiler   Author's Homepage   Email Timothy Eiler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I bought and Paid for one Irem rectifier and a couple of older Strong Lamphouse’s one complete and the other was for Parts From John Eickhof. I took approx a year to do anything as far as shipping goes in getting the Equipment. When I did finally get this arranged I Contacted John and he had at that point sold Both Lamphouse’s again to another Party. John said he would refund ˝ of what I paid him for the Lamphouse’s and then Subtract 75.00 from that for putting the Irem on a pallet and strapping it down. Ok Fine I did take way to long to get the stuff Out Of his hair. I paid for the Shipping and received the rectifier in August 2005.

By December 30 2005 I had not received the refund. So I contacted John and he responeded that he spaced out sending the check and would send it asap.

I sent a follow up E-mail To John Eickhof on 1/22/2006 and on 2/12/2006 I have not heard a response from either e-mail nor have I received the refund that was promised.

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 02-24-2006 11:41 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If one doesn't take delivery in a prompt fashion then the blame rides on them
one must complete all the arrangements
on the same token the seller I assume made reasonable attempts to contact regarding getting the goods shipped
If someone buys something from me but doesn't get it out the door I do expect reasonable storage charges

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