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Author Topic: Paramount kills off 35mm in the US Shawn M. Martin Expert Film Handler Posts: 175 From: Arlington, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2012 posted 06-27-2014 09:57 AM                    The AMC Spring 10 in Texas, which last I checked was all 35mm, is also showing Transformers.  |  IP: Logged Shawn M. Martin Expert Film Handler Posts: 175 From: Arlington, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2012 posted 07-25-2014 03:26 PM                    Hercules got prints, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles probably will too.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-25-2014 07:01 PM                        So how many prints are they making these days? And I wonder what the grosses are of the smallest places that are getting them?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 07-26-2014 01:33 PM                     In another topic, Scott started a thread about WB and 35mm a comment was made that Warner has no intention to discontinue in striking 35mm prints. Kind to goes to show that DCI hasn't completely taken over the industry, along with studios never made the announcement on a set date that striking of prints will cease.  |  IP: Logged Buck Wilson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 894 From: St. Joseph MO, USA Registered: Sep 2010 posted 07-26-2014 02:45 PM                     Huzzah!!!!  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-26-2014 07:21 PM                        There's no real need for a set date now anyway. Most of those who will convert have done it. The studios will probably make a handful of prints for a long time now, they'll gradually get harder and more expensive to get, those remaining film theaters will gradually dry up, and then they'll stop making film.  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 08-25-2015 10:26 PM                 It has been 395 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Matt Russell Expert Film Handler Posts: 142 From: Aurora, USA Registered: Aug 2015 posted 08-25-2015 10:26 PM                    Ok this is becoming pathetic Paramount, so far this year ALL their major movies (Spongebob, Terminator, Mission: Impossible) have all gotten 35mm prints and it's about to be two years since they swore they would "stop". I think this was a mistaken promise on Paramount's behalf. At the very least they could of just came out and said their still gonna make 35mm movies for the time being.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-25-2015 11:18 PM                        They're still making a few -- like noted above, there's no reason to call a complete halt if there's still money to be made from making a few prints. I have a feeling that a theater our size would have to wait months to get most 35mm prints these days, if we could even get one at all before "video."  |  IP: Logged Buck Wilson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 894 From: St. Joseph MO, USA Registered: Sep 2010 posted 08-26-2015 12:19 AM                     Matt you say that as if it's a bad thing.  |  IP: Logged Matt Russell Expert Film Handler Posts: 142 From: Aurora, USA Registered: Aug 2015 posted 08-26-2015 07:39 AM                    quote: Buck Wilson Matt you say that as if it's a bad thing It totally isn't, I definitely want films to receive 35mm prints well into the future, the thing I think is bad is that switching major studio decisions like this without notifying us, their providers, makes me question Paramount's management if they can't keep their promises.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-26-2015 08:23 AM                     Considering nearly all movies are post processed via digital intermediate (and at HDTV quality 2K resolution most of the time) 35mm prints for exhibition are largely a waste of time. The only logic I see with them striking these prints is having a little something extra to show for analog film-out archival backups of what is otherwise highly volatile, very temporary digital data. The few extra prints are a bone to throw to labs as a cursory way to keep them on life support -as if that will be enough.  |  IP: Logged Daniel Schulz Master Film Handler Posts: 387 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 08-26-2015 10:20 AM                        quote: Bobby Henderson The only logic I see with them striking these prints is having a little something extra to show for analog film-out archival backups of what is otherwise highly volatile, very temporary digital data. The few extra prints are a bone to throw to labs as a cursory way to keep them on life support -as if that will be enough. Bingo. Most of the cost with small print runs is in the initial film out and lab setup. If you have to make any prints at all (for archive, or to support a foreign distributor), then the incremental cost of running off a handful more for some 35mm screens in the USA is marginal.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-26-2015 10:23 AM                        This is clearly a longer tail than Paramount anticipated. From the "What places (other than arthouses) are still playing 35mm?" thread, a situation is starting to emerge in which there remains a rump of theaters that due to a set of unusual circumstances, are still playing new, mainstream release movies on film, and making enough money to make it worth the studios' while to have FotoKem make prints for them. For whatever reason(s), these places are sticking around for longer than expected. Maybe the "film revival" crowd are seeking them out and going to them, thereby boosting ticket sales? However, Datasat/DTS quitting the market last month has to be another straw in the wind. I'm guessing that they were expecting the market for that audio system to decline further in the immediate short-term. quote: Daniel Schulz Bingo. Most of the cost with small print runs is in the initial film out and lab setup. If you filmout to an IN, yes, but if you filmout the prints directly? Plus, FotoKem's film business is such a boutique operation now that I'd guess that the cost of consumables (stock and chemistry) and staff time is a larger component of the per unit cost now than it was in the days when 500 to 1,000 prints of a mainstream release would be struck.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-26-2015 10:54 AM                        Has anyone here see the quality of the prints being made? Are they artisanal prints hand-crafted by master film handlers or are they just cranked out as if the were doing a run of 3000 before lunch?  |  IP: Logged

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